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Bill: Equality Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: Democratic-Republican Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: June 3058

Description[?]:

We should not discriminate on the basis of gender, color, language, creed, sexual orientation, or way of life.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date11:40:29, January 08, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr Speaker,

We strongly oppose this measure. The private sector is entitled to discriminate if it wishes to do so.

I yield.

Date14:47:39, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker

The CIL shows its true beliefs, a viscious, racist, bigoted organization.

I yield.

Date14:53:35, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

If the CIL claims to uphold morality, and does not oppose segregation, then they must believe it to be moral, making the CIL the truely immoral party.

I yield.

Date16:43:06, January 08, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr Speaker,

As previously stated, the only person who is capable of judging morality with regards to our religion, the Church of Luthori, is the Emperor, therefore we do not see any interpretation of morality by the USC to be valid.

I yield.

Date16:44:37, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

If the so called emperor believes segregation to be moral, then he is not of Christ.

I yield.

Date17:23:48, January 08, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr Speaker,

Thankfully, in matters of morality and religion, the opinion of the Emperor is worth everything and the opinion of the most honourable representatives from the USC is worth nothing.

Perhaps we should remind you that the Emperor has the final say in the interpretation of the Holy Bible for the Church of Luthori, a religion to which, according to the latest census, 85%of the population belongs to. Another 8.6% if the population are members of the Traditionalist Lutheran Church, which split from the Church of Luthori a long time ago because they saw the C of L as far too liberal.

Their statement proves our point a thousandfold, both of these churches are mainstream in Luthori, the C of L is considered slightly conservative while the TLC is firmly conservative. However they reflect the people of Luthori and their values. It is the USC which is completely out of sync and extremist when compared to the average Luthorian. Just to make it clear, we will read a few short passages of the official doctrine of the TLC, (which is no the official religion of the CIL or the government, that role is filled by the C of L):

On Egalitarianism: "An earthly kingdom cannot exist without inequality of persons. Some must be free, some serfs, some rulers, some subjects."

On Women: "Women...have but small and narrow chests, and broad hips, to the end that they should remain at home, sit still, keep house, and bear and bring up children."

On Witches: "One should show no mercy to these [women]; I would burn them myself, for we read in the Law that the priests were the ones to begin the stoning of criminals."

On Jews: "But the Jews are so hardened that they listen to nothing; though overcome by testimonies they yield not an inch. It is a pernicious race, oppressing all men by their usury and rapine. If they give a prince or magistrate a thousand florins, they extort twenty thousand from the subjects in payment. We must ever keep on guard against them."

The only spiritual organization which is even close to the USC morally is the cult known as the Luthorian Catholic Church. its members represent less than 0.5% of the population. This leads us to think that maybe the USC is in league with the Luthorian Catholics and the false Papists in a conspiracy to bring Luthori down.

Date17:24:50, January 08, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageADDENDUM: The CIL does not endorse the passages that were just read. They do not necessarily reflect the views of the CIL leadership, they were read only as an example of the doctrine of one of Luthori's churches.

Date17:37:22, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

Then why did the people vote for us? Had the EAP not went along with our social program knowing it would fail, then flip flop when we had the chance for success, we would have gained even more votes.

You may attack our leaders, but our ideas will live forever.

I yield.

Date17:39:53, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

Then does the CIL not necessarily endorse the positions of their emperor? He is after all head of your church! We believe you use the emperor only to maintain your own power.

Also, our leaders are not leaders in the sense that the CIL has leaders. You may not be able to function without a hierarchy, but we beleive in consensus. Beyond our President, we are a fluid organization. Our supporters are in all walks of life and we will never give up the fight for justice.

I yield.

Date17:43:09, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

You are correct, the USC represents many Luthorian Catholics. We share their passion for equality and admire their progressive stances in regards to church doctrine. According to our own data, most Luthorian Catholics support the USC. (If this is ok)

I yield.

Date17:46:59, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageSpeaker,

You are correct, the USC represents many Luthorian Catholics. We share their passion for equality and admire their progressive stances in regards to church doctrine. According to our own data, most Luthorian Catholics support the USC. (If this is ok)

I yield.

Date19:14:10, January 08, 2011 CET
FromImperial Aristocratic League
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

The LPP opposes articles 1 and 2 of this bill. Article 3 however is favorable to the LPP as we believe serving in the Luthorian military would bring a great sense of honor and pride to are daughters, sisters, and mothers. We will be casting a no vote for the entire bill however.

I yield

Date19:20:34, January 08, 2011 CET
FromLiberal Alliance
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr Speaker

Women are not as good as men as soldiers. Therefore, to maintain the highest effectivity in our forces, we'll oppose.

I yield

Date20:50:47, January 08, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageIC:

Mr Speaker,

As we thought, the USC are Papist agents, this bodes ill for the good Protestant people of Luthori, we believed we had chased the Papists out long ago, we were wrong. We believe that the only reason the USC was successful is because of the lack of a moderate social democratic party. Social democracy is a Luthorian and permissible ideology.

The Luthorian consensus is that a combination of conservative, liberal and social democratic parties can balance each other out. However, when one party moves far to the left, the CIL will as a reaction move far to the right.

I yield.

OOC: Sure that's fine USC, as long as there is a logical explanation its okay, since both your party and the Luthorian Catholic Church are leftist, it makes sense, what wouldn't make sense was if you'd claim a large party membership in the C of L (theologically and socially conservative) or the TLC (theologically and socially ultra, ultra-conservative).

Also, I'd like to clarify, I have a feeling you misunderstood, which is quite possible because the whole segment was a bit complicating:

The quotes were from the doctrine of the Traditionalist Lutheran Church (TLC), which is a (relatively) minor church with only 8.5% of the population as members. The Emperor is the leader of the Church of Luthori (C of L) and has no affiliation with the TLC, thus the CIL can still endorse the Emperor's positions while not necessarily endorsing those of the TLC.

Date23:20:20, January 08, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic-Republican Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
Messageooc: Is there a developed history for the LCC?

ic:

Speaker,

The CIL continually shows how they are racist, homophobic, segregationist, and now religiously bigoted.

I yield.

Date02:19:30, January 09, 2011 CET
FromFreedom and Revolution Party
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageMr. Speaker,

Caesar is God. Caesar is the voice of God. Caesar is the body of God.

Caesar is God.

I yield.

Date10:19:25, January 09, 2011 CET
FromConstitutionalist Imperial League (IA)
ToDebating the Equality Act
MessageOOC: Yep, here it is http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Luthori_Catholic_Church

There are now higher tensions between the C of L and LCC than when the article was written because the C of L was at the time not if communion with the Terran (or Deltarian) Catholic Church) which excommunicated the LCC.

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