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Bill: Universities Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 3067
Description[?]:
| This bill will put into effect the creation of only Public universities to ensure affordability and standards that lead to more competent Darnussians in the workforce. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The regulation of higher education.
Old value:: The government allows public and private higher education institutions to coexist with self-regulation for those that are private.
Current: The government does not fund any public higher education institutions, permitting only private higher education institutions to exist.
Proposed: The government does not allow private higher education institutions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:06:21, January 26, 2011 CET | From | Darnussian Reform Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | Less freedom, less return on costs, lower levels of learning, higher debt and a dumb population. What could be better? |
| Date | 17:21:41, January 26, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | "Less freedom" Entirely untrue. Right-wing propoganda to rally the people against leftism. "lower levels of learning" Again, completely false. "higher debt" Lower military spending and raise taxes. That's my proposal. |
| Date | 17:41:40, January 26, 2011 CET | From | Darnussian Reform Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | Less freedom because you are OUTLAWING private education. Lower levels of learning because there will be less private competition and less public-private competition. Raising taxes is the worst way to reduce debt. It is essentially giving the keys to the liquor cabinet to an alcoholic. We can discuss military spending at a future time. What more should I have expected than a "No! I don't like!" reply. |
| Date | 18:34:17, January 26, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | Private education gives the keys to teaching absolute falsehoods, religious dogma, or other patently false or politically motivated trash masked as facts under the guise of a school. The government cannot recognize it as a real education unless there is a standardization that privatization schools simply does not allow. I am sorry, but your god you make out of the free market can't be relied upon for everything. The public school option also means that we can afford to lower tuitions and unilaterally increase the standards of education to make Darnussians the smartest people on the planet. |
| Date | 04:27:11, January 27, 2011 CET | From | Darnussian Reform Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | Private education allows for accountability towards consumers. Public Education allows for the same garbage you just mentioned, but instead it is state sponsored and you cannot just pack up and go to a better school. The government doesnt have to recognize education, private employers do. Public Schools are currently allowed. By banning private schools, demand for public schools will go up, increasing tution [which under your system will fall on the governments shoulders]. |
| Date | 17:26:05, January 27, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | By banning private schools, we are preventing either: a) children being exposed to substandard education, because profit is the main motive over education. b) religious schools imposing their religious views on things such as science instead of teaching the truth c) Private schools allow only rich children to choose school, and the privilage is denied to poorer children. If everybody cannot get it, then nobody should. |
| Date | 17:34:02, January 27, 2011 CET | From | Darnussian Reform Conservative Alliance | To | Debating the Universities Act |
| Message | a) If profit is their main motive, they will try harder to get the business of consumers that are free to choose the school in which they attend. b)Teaching of false information applies not only to religions, but political ideologies, etc. Like I said, governments are just as capable of this as private businesses, but with the government, it is taken to be concrete truth and you cannot challenge it or change educational institution. c) Scholarships, charities, and provincial loans/grants allow anyone who wishes to go to school to do so. This bill does nothing to lower the cost of education [quite the opposite actually]. It simply removes the comsumers' freedom to choose the place in which they would like to learn. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 318 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 383 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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