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Bill: RP: Declaration of Secession
Details
Submitted by[?]: Narik Nationalist Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3070
Description[?]:
| The Narik Nationalist Party is officially taking Narikton from the tyrannous state of Darnussia. This will include the provinces of Narikton, Clenon and Nihaton. There comes a time in the history of all people when they find a cause. Be it anything, they fight until their death for it. The Narik Nationalist Party has found their cause. They have liberated an oppressed people called the Nariks. They attempted to liberate themselves and failed due to the iron shackles Darnussia placed on them. THe NNP has smashed these shackles and will continue to smash Darnussia. It is sad, but the joyous freedom of the Narik people will cost them. With their liberation, war is sure to break out. Thousands of Narik men, women and teens are taking to NNP HQ's across the Islands to sign up for the Narik Nationalist Army. If the Darnussians have a change of heart, we are prepared to back down. But any sign of aggression will be treated as an attack on our liberties. Liberty, Equality, Nariks. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:20:44, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Knights of the Red Shirt League | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | The KKK supports the Narik's right to seceed from Darnussia. |
| Date | 02:23:09, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Knights of the Red Shirt League | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | The communist infestation in the government of Darnussia will be difficult to defeat, but with the help of the Klan, all the people of Darnussia, not just the Narik's, can have their freedom and independence. |
| Date | 02:47:25, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | We urge the Narik people to stand down and come to the negotiation table so that we can save lives. |
| Date | 09:23:48, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | The CPD will not and cannot allow this. The people of Darnussia must fight, not back down! Long Live the Union! |
| Date | 19:36:13, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | I agree with the Liberty party. Armed conflict is not the solution. We can work out terms and be a stronger nation for it in the long run. Come to the negotiating table. |
| Date | 20:31:04, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Knights of the Red Shirt League | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | You'd better not demonstrate around us, CPD. |
| Date | 20:33:09, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Knights of the Red Shirt League | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | The Narik's do not recognize Darnussia as having jurisdiction over them, and local Klans in Narik aren't going to be too welcoming to hoovers or any other kind of Darnussian visitors who want to change that. |
| Date | 20:34:30, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Knights of the Red Shirt League | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | "You ought to stay where you belong" is a reported message sent out to the CPD and other federal Darnussian parties by a local Narik Klansmen. |
| Date | 23:26:35, January 28, 2011 CET | From | Narik Nationalist Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | We have tried negotiations and we were just calmed down and lost our momentum. If you let us secede without fighting fine, but we won't stay a part of this ill-begotten Union. |
| Date | 00:36:39, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | You can't possibly assume all Narik's want to separate. I myself am half Narik, I grew up in Merenburg and I love this country, all of it. And yet you wouldn't even consent to a referendum! You are just a man with imperial aims under the guise of justice and speaking for a people you do not represent! |
| Date | 06:14:31, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Narik Nationalist Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Thats quite noble Ms. Claire, however, you cannot know what it is like to live in a country where you know the language only from school and your ancestors give their lives to leave. Now, they want to leave Merneburg as rubble? I thought the purpose of government was to aid the people... Clearly if you are truly a Merenburgite, you would join our cause! |
| Date | 13:02:47, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | This is treason of the highest kind! The house must not and cannot allow an Imperial Narikaton to come into being. We must fight and preserve this union. If the question of Narik Imperialism is brought to attention, then the only answer will be war. [Arthur Bronstein IV, General Secretary] |
| Date | 20:28:34, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Bronstein, this is not a way to solve the issue. The LSPD will only sign a support for this secession if it passes a referendum of the island provinces. Claire Johnson, Party Chairperson |
| Date | 20:41:05, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Johnson, we cannot allow our territories, especially ones that when in the past given independence used the opportunity to brutally occupy the mainland and commit quasi-genocide against the Kozari and Darnus peoples, to split from us whenever it pleases them. Narik Nationalism is a violent belief, and must be answered with violence. Us Kozari People's forefathers never fought off two Narik occupations only for, 500 years later, to be handing them independence on a silver platter. [Arthur Bronstein IV, General Secretary] |
| Date | 20:52:29, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | I will argue their right to self-determination. If it is int her interests of the Narik people, a fact I doubt greatly, I will support a sovereignty. And referencing to an event that happened 500 years ago is hardly prudent. Claire Johnson, Party Chairperson |
| Date | 21:10:52, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Those who ignore the warnings from history are condemned to repeat it. Stop this now before the Third Civil War. [Daniel Hesselrink, MP for Narikaton] |
| Date | 23:03:03, January 29, 2011 CET | From | Narik Nationalist Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | A third civil war is the cost of greedy government officials stopping the progression of history. One must note that Kozaria selected the NNP as their provincial party, meaning that not only do the Nariks want to secede but the *spits on ground* Darnussians want us to secede as well. How dare the government stop the will of the people????!!!!! NNP Spokesperson (for security reasons, all party members names are secret) |
| Date | 00:12:32, January 30, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | OOC: No, one must look at Kozaria and think, "we cannot help the way the game mechanics choose who wins what." In a RP situation, the NNP wouldn't stand in Kozaria and Alkavon |
| Date | 04:50:06, January 30, 2011 CET | From | Narik Nationalist Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | OOC: ok sorry, trying to incorporate game mechanics into RP. Nevermind then. |
| Date | 12:11:42, January 30, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | But still, therefore we can redistribute your seats won in Kozaria and Alkavon between Narikaton, Nihaton and Clenon, and that means you are very popular in the Islands. |
| Date | 01:39:05, January 31, 2011 CET | From | Imperia Nationalist Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | We must strike before it is too late! We must destroy everything so they have no hope! We must bomb them now as the tension is rising. The move is risky but what is the cost of the economy the better of Darnussia! Laic Josephs Spokesperson for DNP |
| Date | 05:10:27, February 01, 2011 CET | From | Liberty Party | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Negotiations and a referendum conducted must be conducted. If not we will prosecute the succeeding parties and the parties that pushed for a civil war for treason. |
| Date | 09:31:53, February 01, 2011 CET | From | Communist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the RP: Declaration of Secession |
| Message | Bomb who? The Nariks? Why would we bomb our own countrymen. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 93 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 608 | ||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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