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Bill: Abolish the death penalty
Details
Submitted by[?]: Cooperative Commonwealth Federation
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 2048
Description[?]:
| This bill would make it illegal for the state to execute individuals for any reason. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy with respect to the death penalty.
Old value:: The death penalty is not applied, except for terrorism, treason and crimes against mankind.
Current: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Proposed: The death penalty is illegal and is never to be applied.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:00:35, May 04, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | The CNT/AFL will support this bill. We are in favour of rehabilitation, and eliminating the causes of crime. |
| Date | 23:05:09, May 04, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | Terrorism, treason, and crimes against mankind are very difficult to convict someone of without that person actually being guilty. There is an almost nonexistent chance of a person accused of these crimes being convicted despite innocence. As such, the Council believes that the death penalty has no downside when applied to these crimes - which hardly ever come up in any case. There is no need to abolish the death penalty. |
| Date | 05:10:01, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Lodamun Centre-Left Coalition | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | (BTW: This would be the second such proposal, an earlier one was defeated.) |
| Date | 05:31:23, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | Yes, the bill was defeated once before. The seat distribution now makes it possible to pass bills that were once impossible. There is no reason to keep the death penalty. It is better to err on the side of life. |
| Date | 05:35:34, May 05, 2005 CET | From | Chorus of Amyst | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | The death penalty is a much harsher deterrent than life in prison, especially given the fact that many criminals walk free after serving barely any of their sentence. There is no reason to dismiss the death penalty for the few crimes toward which it is still applicable. |
| Date | 21:36:35, May 05, 2005 CET | From | CNT/AFL | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | Put this to a vote, I'm sure we can pass it. |
| Date | 10:35:27, May 07, 2005 CET | From |  National People's Gang | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | There are, in fact, countless occasions in history when people have been convicted of terrorism, treason, and crimes against mankind, who were later exonerated. Birmingham Six Guidlford Four etc |
| Date | 21:38:22, May 07, 2005 CET | From | MLTP (The Resistance) | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | But what about those who have committed crimes against humanity (Tito, Nazi Criminals, Serbian Criminals, etc)? Should those who have committed murder on a mass scale not be subject to the death penalty? |
| Date | 21:52:36, May 07, 2005 CET | From | Cooperative Commonwealth Federation | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | To cite the old slogan: why shoudl we kill people who kill people to prove that killing people is wrong? (Marxist-Leninist-Trotskist eh? All we lack now is a run-of-the-mill conservative party!) |
| Date | 03:19:44, May 08, 2005 CET | From | MLTP (The Resistance) | To | Debating the Abolish the death penalty |
| Message | Its not even a question of killing them to make an example out of them. In the case of those who have committed crimes against humanity, there is no hope of rehabilitation. The alternative to death is sitting in a jail until they die of natural causes, which: A. Is perhaps a worse fate then death. B. Uses up federal money. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 59 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 29 |
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