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Bill: Unborn Victims of Violence Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Islamic Nationalist Front
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2143
Description[?]:
| A BILL to protect children from assault and murder, and for other purposes. ARTICLE 1. PROTECTION OF UNBORN CHILDREN. Any individual that engages in a violent act against the mother of an unborn child and, as a result, causes the death of or bodily injury to the child shall be prosecuted for any damage done onto the child, in addition to and separately from any charges pressed for the crime(s) committed against the mother. ART. 2. REGULATION OF CONTRACEPTIVES. Any contraceptives that, in addition to or in place of preventing conception, affect the lining of the uterus or otherwise inhibits the process of the embryo implanting in the womb are considered abortive and, therefore, illegal. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:42:22, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | Opposed. The JLSP is intrigued by how religiously and stubbornly people are willing to define what human life is. And what's more, not just leave it as a personal definition, but try to force it on to others as well. |
| Date | 21:46:31, November 17, 2005 CET | From |  Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | OOC: Yes, there can be no absolutes when it comes to the definition of life. Each person should be free to define the point at which life begins, or better yet, the requirements for a human being to be considered alive. In fact, I think all members of the Jakanian Liberal Socialist Party are not actually "alive" and I don't believe I, or anyone else, should be held responsible should I murder them. Seriously, though, the NLP favors an anti-abortion stance because it is the most inclusive. Article 1, I feel, simply takes the position our government has already adopted and applies it to the cases specified in the bill. Article 2 is also simply an application of a position we have already adopted; however, it also deals with fraud, as any drug that is potentially abortive should not be labeled as a "contraceptive" anyway. It's not like I'm proposing we ban all condoms or even all legitamate contraceptives. But if you adopt a principle, stick to it! |
| Date | 21:51:12, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Islamic Nationalist Front | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | OOC: Typo, should be "legitimate." |
| Date | 22:25:17, November 17, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | I see this merely as enforcign the laws we already have. I also am amused at JLSP calling former members of the Church of Satan's political party "religious fundies" |
| Date | 14:23:20, November 18, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Liberal Socialists | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | (Uh, you can't use quotation marks to quote something I didn't say. Please reread the post. Article 1 I can accept in some instances, but article 2 and any medical extensions of the law I can not accept. When I say 'religiously', i mean that the only thing being used to define what human life is in this case is faith and personal belief, there is no reason and logic to back it up. I don't mind people basing their actions and opinions on faith, but I -do- mind when they then force this on others as well. Plus, I'm also worried this law will conflict with out 'abortions in a medical emergency' law. On a semi-related note, to try and illustrate the point I'm making: don't get me wrong, I am actually anti-abortion, but only in the sense that when I graduate from med school, I'm never going to perform one, nor would I ever suggest a partner, friend or family member get one. But that doesn't mean I'm going to impose the belief that it's wrong on others, when that belief is based only on a personal definition of what human life is. |
| Date | 01:19:33, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Jakanian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Unborn Victims of Violence Act |
| Message | I was not quoting you |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 157 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 93 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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