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Bill: Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN)
Details
Submitted by[?]: Christian Democratic Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3102
Description[?]:
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:45:18, March 31, 2011 CET |
From | Christian Democratic Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | This treaty was brought under the old monarchy, but got lost in the paperwork of the revolution. We still feel this is something we should become involved in.
OOC: Thanks to the PP for clearing out the old bills, since this was one of them stuck in there - and I had never gotten around to doing something about this one and others. |
| Date | 04:29:45, April 03, 2011 CET |
From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | The forign companies do and companies being companies just trying to make a profit, will pass those expenses onto the consumers by putting the price up for their products. However this is a win-win for local business as since the foreign goods are more expensive, everyone will opt for the locally made ones keeping jobs in Aloria. |
| Date | 06:12:54, April 03, 2011 CET |
From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | Your argument makes sense however even if they buy from goods from froegin compaines how would that ship jobs over to other countrys. Wouldn't foregin compaines be forced to set up businsses her to sell their products which would create more jobs here? |
| Date | 07:53:09, April 03, 2011 CET |
From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | No they wouldn't, you need to think outside the square. Pretend a company sets up a business in a country that allows workers to be exploited working for very little and for long hours. Since the company does not have to pay their workers much their products are cheap. Later on, they get bigger and bigger and go global and expand into countries like this one who protect their workers and ensure that they are paid fairly. Since our workers are protected by the unions and parties who represent the unions (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) our products are more expensive as the only things companies care about is making profits so they pass on the expenses of high wages onto the consumers. Now when a cheap, foreign company comes into Aloria, common sense tells us that consumers will opt for the cheaper one even if it is of a lower quality and foreign made. So that being said the foreign companies can just out compete locally made and swallow up competition whilst keeping jobs in the countries with no worker's rights. That is why we need tariffs, because nobody and I mean nobody, can compete with scab labour unless a tax is placed on it. As yuo should know when you tax something people will use less of it, and I want people to use less foreign things and support locally made.
OOC: I am pretty sure the situation is the same in the US but nearly everything in the UK is made from foreign nations with scab labour e.g China, India, Nigeria etc. Now it has gotten to the point of madness where I have a pair of pyjama pants/boxers/briefs whatever they call them these days anyway, the boxer pyjama thing is a British flag, but guess what? It is made in China! That is because it is cheaper because our government removed a lot of tariffs in the 70's and 80's meaning foreign goods can just seep away British made products and keep jobs offshore and no we hardly make anything. Don't get me started on our car industry... in the 1950's we had the most car companies in the world and most production of cars in the world but, and nearly every city or town had a car manufacturing plant but since tariffs were removed, scab labour became common and the third world takes it all for themselves while they are still living in sub-standard conditions big western companies are exploiting them and they cannot do anything about it because that is the only way they can make a few quid. |
| Date | 08:08:42, April 03, 2011 CET |
From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | OOC: Most everything in U.S. is made of China
IC: I would still see that they would need to set up stores here and jobs would be created here either way. I understand what you are saying, so we will vote no on this and we should enforce tarrifs but at a low tax. |
| Date | 13:35:16, April 03, 2011 CET |
From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Ratification of the The League of Terran Nations (LTN) | | Message | No they wouldn't actually. Pretend a foreign company starts a clothes brand in their country and they expand to Aloria, all they need to do is sell their products in a clothes store here and no new jobs need to be created in the process of doing so. |
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| yes | Total Seats: 168 |
| no | Total Seats: 418 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 164 |
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