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Bill: DSPB.0317.3121 Military
Details
Submitted by[?]: BDSP un Beys fun Yisserles-Binyomen
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3123
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The nation's defence industry.
Old value:: The state owns all defence industries.
Current: Defence industries are privately owned but subsidised by the state.
Proposed: The state owns national defence industries but these exist alongside privately owned defence industries.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Nation's policy with regards to an intelligence agency.
Old value:: The nation has an intelligence agency, but it is limited to counter-intelligence and surveillance of other countries.
Current: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Proposed: The nation has an intelligence agency that is permitted by law to undertake all types of covert operations in other countries.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Current: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place, backed up by the military.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are allowed but are heavily regulated by the government.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed with full privileges, with the right to intervene when necessary.
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning the export of weapons to other nations.
Old value:: The government allows arms to be sold only to close allies.
Current: The government allows conventional arms to be exported freely.
Proposed: The government allows all arms to be exported freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 05:05:14, May 16, 2011 CET | From | Algemeyner Manarkistishen Arbeter Bund | To | Debating the DSPB.0317.3121 Military |
| Message | Does the DSP not feel that it is important to prevent a potential flow of arms into the hands of states which have adopted an aggressive stance towards Beiteynu? Why should we allow our defence industries to arm anyone who has the money to pay? This is particularly worrisome with the introduction of private defence industries, which could then trade with our enemies even if it's against the national interest. Additionally, which paramilitaries do the DSP seek to grant "full privileges"? At present, only well-regulated citizens' militias are permitted as part of the defence system of our nation. What privileges that are currently lacking would be granted to these other paramilitaries? We are not necessarily against increasing the role of the military in the policing of our nation, but we would first like to hear why the DSP feels it is necessary at this time. The same goes for the expansion of the powers of our intelligence agency. |
| Date | 05:37:08, May 16, 2011 CET | From | BDSP un Beys fun Yisserles-Binyomen | To | Debating the DSPB.0317.3121 Military |
| Message | Many centuries ago, what is now the Royal Kafuri Company, a Beiteynuese company, introduced a top secret device which can remotely disable the weapons systems that it is incorporated into. We can profit greatly from exporting weapons for a variety of purposes. We will hopefully know our true enemies well enough to embargo them before they threaten us. The expansion of powers of our intelligence agency will help us to expect future invasions and possible threats. At this time we may not need to increase the role of our military in policing but we should not be delayed in doing so when we really need to. The empowerment of the paramilitaries is for much the same purpose as the policing powers of the military, to be better prepared. The privileges are many and among them is not to be dependent on bureaucracy in case of emergency. |
| Date | 06:02:44, May 19, 2011 CET | From | Natsyonaler Partey | To | Debating the DSPB.0317.3121 Military |
| Message | We support 3, 4, and 5, and oppose 1 and 2. We will reluctantly vote for. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 750 | |||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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