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Bill: Mandatory Military service
Details
Submitted by[?]: Baltusian Neo Exsudo Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 2145
Description[?]:
| Baltusia's people should not be froced to serve in the military. If the People so coose to defend their country then it is up to them and them alone. For the government should not be able to make people "Voluntolds" for it would be surpressing their rights as a free and responible person. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling can be required in times of war to serve a term in the military.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term of civilian national service.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:07:14, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Baltusian Neo Exsudo Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | It's the opprestion of ones right to choose. |
| Date | 21:31:55, November 20, 2005 CET | From |  National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | "can be required in times of war". If Baltusia was being invaded, would you not want a larger military? Opposed. |
| Date | 21:37:23, November 20, 2005 CET | From | Revolutionary Socialist Alliance | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | What I am opposed to is the constant peddling by some parties of military tactics and security. ISP - I'm puzzled why you are in favour of forcing people to work for their country in this way, being tools of the state, if you will. Surely it would be more productive to build up Baltusia so people believe it is worth defending, instead of making them so such service, often against their will? |
| Date | 22:34:14, November 20, 2005 CET | From | National Party of Baltusia | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | The only situation this would ever be enforced is a situation of war, as the bill state. And even then, it isn't definitely enforced. It is only avalible to the state. I see this as a precaution we should take. |
| Date | 01:45:59, November 21, 2005 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | Indeed, I agree with the ISP. If a sovereign military force has landed in Baltusia, there is something seriously wrong in the area (ie, several of our neighbours have had the crap kicked out of them) and we need the maximum firepower possible. If we're looking at an offshore war (very, very unlikely but possible), then the logistics of moving a large number of conscripts would quickly defeat the feasbility of such an action. |
| Date | 00:29:31, November 22, 2005 CET | From | Baltusian Neo Exsudo Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | Conscription is the opression of a persons baisic right to choose. |
| Date | 00:40:03, November 22, 2005 CET | From | Optimates Party | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | My conservative principles prefer a volenteer force. i do believe there should be some form of military or civilian service,especially if the government is fitting the bill for higher education.(also my party is loosely based on Republic Rome, and I have no problem with long term enlistments). However in times of war a draft may be needed so I must vote no on this one. I do sympathise with you Neo Exsudo. |
| Date | 01:17:49, November 23, 2005 CET | From | Txurruka/Aperribai/Mayoz's OPX | To | Debating the Mandatory Military service |
| Message | "Conscription is the opression of a persons baisic right to choose." As opposed to socialism, the world's best example of economic freedom. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 58 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 261 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 23 |
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