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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of April 3138

Details

Submitted by[?]: New Front Alliance

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 3138

Description[?]:

Proposing a Cabinet

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date16:07:09, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We recognise the need to compromise our vision of a new Rutania for the benefit of all Runtania and as such offer this unity cabinet. Having received almost double the seats of any other party and having won both rounds of the Presidential vote we feel it would remiss to leave us out of a cabinet. Equally we need to acknowledge the greater will of the people of the Republic of Rutania.

Date16:19:00, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We believe that the ideology of the Freedom Party and that of this left wing, big government leadership of the NFA are incongruent and strongly believe that they should object to being included in this so called "unity government."

Date16:23:27, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

As our support, given before the election, of the Freedom Party's constitutional amendments shows, we are more than willing to compromise on ideology in order to contribute to constructive Government. We appeal to all parties to recognise the greater will of the people of Rutania, who were more than willing to endorse our supposed "left wing, big government leadership". An incorrect definition of our intent by an ideological warrior in the NLP.

Date16:42:54, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We believe that the slight majority of 0.08% that the NFA had in the Presidential election and the fact that they make up a plurality of seats in the National Assembly is hardly a mandate for them to govern at will without regard for parties that are supposedly their ideological enemies. We point out that the constitutional amendments are quite obviously a multiparty agreement, and not a willingness to compromise on the part of the NFA. Were they willing to compromise we wouldn't have such invasive government policies as it were.

Date16:47:08, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We simply contend that an NFA presence in the Assembly is appropriate. We are more than willing to negotiate cabinet responsibilities.

Date16:51:37, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

How can a party that desperately demanded for an inclusive cabinet propose such an extreme bill? the NFA's childish action to label themselves as the "true warriors" of Rutania is proven to be false. The NFA should set aside their insolent political scheme and introduce a newly modified proposal.

Date16:55:05, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We ask the URP when we referred to ourselves or attempted to label ourselves as the "true warriors" of Rutania?

Date17:01:44, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

The NFA will try to be fastidious on whatever the opposition party holds against them. But their actions against this country is intolerable. Perhaps they've forgotten their own words from the former cabinet proposal, but they should recollect their explicit demands for fair and inclusive cabinet and implement them on this proposal.

Date17:05:57, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We feel it necessary to point out that the recent election was hardly a win for the government, at a swing of 8% against the government, we believe that there is no longer a mandate for this government to continue as it has. This is a liberty loving nation, free of government invasiveness, and we believe that this has proved it.

Date17:06:15, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

It is unfortunately clear that the URP is deranged and desperate. We wish them luck and hope they seek help. For the benefit of us all and most of all the few lost souls that will foolishly cast their votes for the URP. That is if the URP even survives to the next poll. Their history indicates it is unlikely.

Date17:09:29, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We assume that the NLP has included the Urban Party of Rutania in their "definition" of the previous "government". If they have. then they may notice that a clear majority is still held. Not that it matters, of course.

Date17:14:33, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We have included the Urban Party of Rutania in the definition of previous government, as convention, they are part of cabinet and thus part of government. However, the Urban Party of Rutania is a pragmatic party, and we understand that, their continued support of a government led by the NFA makes little sense to us, and we think largely to the Rutanian voter as a whole. The Urban Party has been much more aligned with parties on the opposite side of the spectrum (see voting history) than it has with the current government. It is, though, entirely up to the Urban Party to choose the side of the National Assembly on which it sits and this party will forever respect the choice one makes, but the 8% swing should not be ignored. The current government has no clear mandate, and should make every effort to reform itself and submit to better discussion with their supposed "ideological enemies."

Date17:14:39, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

I urge the NFA to halt their attempt to evade from the relevant arguments and act responsibly as a presidential party. Perhaps they should've considered the positions of other parties when they themselves accused the others with false accusations. This cowardly actions from the NFA unequivocally proves the party as irresponsible and untrustworthy party.

Date17:15:57, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

I urge the NFA to halt their attempt to evade from the relevant arguments and act responsibly as a presidential party. Perhaps they should've considered the positions of other parties when they themselves accused the others with false accusations. This cowardly actions from the NFA unequivocally proves the party as irresponsible and untrustworthy party.

Date17:16:30, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageOOC: I'm quite enjoying this, haha.

Date17:17:33, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

I urge the NFA to halt their attempt to evade from the relevant arguments and act responsibly as a presidential party. Perhaps they should've considered the positions of other parties when they themselves accused the others with false accusations. This cowardly actions from the NFA unequivocally proves the party as irresponsible and untrustworthy party.

Date17:18:21, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
Messageexcuse for the triple post.

Date17:19:16, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We can not respond to claims that are unequivocally false. We can't help but pity the URP. As for the NLP's claims, they are once again bending the truth. This election saw the introduction of two new parties and an entirely different electoral circumstance. One such party held 100 million supporters at their last election. Therefore a swing away from all the existing parties had to be expected. That the government managed to retain such a clear majority in the face of this, is an achievement that should not be ignored.

Date17:24:51, June 18, 2011 CET
FromUnited Republican Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

It is almost interesting to see how the NFA tries to elude from the facts that are undeniable. This is another attempt from the NFA to deny whatever the facts are that holds against them. Can we call this party a responsible party, or a party that is attempting to decimate the formal unity of this assembly that we used to have before the NFA intervened?

Date17:26:17, June 18, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We cannot call an 8% swing a clear majority, and any party that thinks as such should heed the warning. Apparently not, though. Again, this government must reform, and must become better inclusive if it wishes to survive. It majority will continue to be worn away should it continue as it has - with complete disregard to traditional Rutanian ways of life.

Date17:31:26, June 18, 2011 CET
FromNew Front Alliance
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr. Speaker,

We inform the NLP that this warning has been heed, we assure them. We are more than willing to reform whilst maintaining the traditional Rutanian way of life. Our voting into the future will show this. We may fight strongly for what we believe in but we are willing to move beyond battles of the past.

Date02:46:01, June 19, 2011 CET
FromCommonwealth Liberal Party
ToDebating the Cabinet Proposal of April 3138
MessageMr Speaker,

We are pleased to hear this from the NFA, and hope that they are true to their words.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 296

no
     

Total Seats: 379

abstain
 

Total Seats: 0


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