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Bill: Greater Civil Liberties
Details
Submitted by[?]: Social Democrats Union
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3147
Description[?]:
| To introduce greater civil liberties and rights for all citizens. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: Public nudity is illegal, but private nudist colonies and beaches are permitted.
Current: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Proposed: Public nudity laws are left to local governments.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Displays of public affection and obscenity laws.
Old value:: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Current: Sexual intercourse is illegal in public.
Proposed: Local governments may regulate laws on public acts of affection and obscenity.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:21:27, July 03, 2011 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | It does seem sensible to leave regulations on public nudity and public affection to the local governments through city ordinances or provincial board resolutions. As such, we would be amenable to Article 1. As for Article 2, we would prefer to let the local government decide on it instead. |
| Date | 05:27:47, July 04, 2011 CET | From | Social Democrats Union | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | As for article 2, what if there is some ultra-conservative local government that decides not to allow any signs of affection in public? Then what? |
| Date | 06:25:42, July 04, 2011 CET | From | New Aloria Party (NAP) | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | I say keep article 2 at the same. I mean dude would you want to walk down the street seeing me bang my girlfriend right on the sidewalk |
| Date | 07:18:38, July 04, 2011 CET | From | Social Democrats Union | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | You would have to be pretty weird and brave to be having sex right on the footpath where all can see you. But, people do have sex in public not where all can see but in the back of parks, in the back of public toilets in empty car parks, in the back of a car and so on. Also, to be fair an I'm serious, what about homeless people? What if they want to have sex too? I mean, this sort of thing happens all the time. I'm serious here, I saw a couple having sex when I was 6. I was walking home from school through a park and there they were, in a lonely area of that park. Thank God they didn't see me, my mouth literally drooped and I ran the other direction without thinking twice. Still remember that clearly to this day. As they say, only in Germany........ |
| Date | 15:51:08, July 04, 2011 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | This is in response to SDU's concern with Article 2. If anyone wants to complain about it, they can always take the matter to the Supreme Court. Also, the Internal Affairs ministry should also be able to help out with regards to that issue. |
| Date | 04:33:59, July 05, 2011 CET | From | Social Democrats Union | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | Eh? GPA, perhaps you're mistaken, I have no concern with this as I am the one who made this bill. I have no idea what you're talking about there, sorry. |
| Date | 06:24:51, July 05, 2011 CET | From | Genuine Progress Alliance | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | I was referring to this question that you raised earlier: "what if there is some ultra-conservative local government that decides not to allow any signs of affection in public?" |
| Date | 09:48:21, July 05, 2011 CET | From | Social Democrats Union | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | Oh, i see. Alright I'll change that to local governments to guarantee your support. |
| Date | 05:35:21, July 06, 2011 CET | From | Alorian Conservative Party | To | Debating the Greater Civil Liberties |
| Message | The Alorian Conservative Party strongly opposes this bill and the proposals presented in this bill. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 421 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 197 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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