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Bill: Prison Reform Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kommunistische Arbeitspartei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2035
Description[?]:
| Purpose is to give prisoners a proper education during their jail time. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Education in prisons.
Old value:: Prisoners are not given any form of education.
Current: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Proposed: An education plan for prisoners is provided to improve rehabilitation.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
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From | | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Makeing prisoners in to costructive members of society through education-it could work, if someone genuinely wants to change their ways it should be encourged- yet reabillitation shouldn't give way to the reason prisoners are put in prison- punishment for the wrong they have done to society. Education and the resocialization of criminals through the educationl prossess seems ok-but what garantee is there that prisoners in education that the tax payers will have to finance are going to come out and be positive citizens. Why not make them pay for this education they recive while in jail-or take out a loan from the state / or another body that they will pay back once freed and in work (like a student loan). This would demonstrate that the prisoner has a desire to rehabilitate him/herself through education whilst in prison and also to demonstate their genuine life time renouciation of criminality through their commitment to pay back the money for their education cost after their release. With a student loan to pay off the ex-criminal would have to commit them selfs to a job. Prisoners not willing to take on the cost of their education out side the prison walls would not go in to education, but those who genuinely wanted to reform would see it as a resonabul price to pay and a ssound investment in their own future. |
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From | Senatus et Populusque Kirlawan(SPQK) | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Ok.. Evil is relative. I think your opressive father knows best nation is a living hell and is the very definition of evil.... but thats just my opinion. You see evil is whatever you want it to be.
PS. You can be smart and evil at the same time ;-) |
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From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | "Father knows best"? How bout this: I am a firm believer in democracy, I just think that democracy requires the suspension of economic freedom to ensure that people don't exploite one another. |
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From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | You realize, VVV, that socialism and democracy can exist side-by-side? Sweden is a mildly socialist nation, and they're better off than america. |
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From | Senatus et Populusque Kirlawan(SPQK) | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | I think that "better off" depends on you views. I personaly would never want to life in Sweeden(or anyewhere in Europe really). Sweeden would be a terrible place to live IMO. |
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From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Because your an individualist, and value your ability to possibly strike it rich than to be ensured that you won't be poor. Most people, who haven't been deluded by the american dream, value security over the possibility of being rich. |
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From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | That's because you're an idiot with no reason for this argument. Sweden is an extremely modern and rather wealthy nation. They never get into wars yet have a powerful defense force, murder is low, and polls place them as one of the happiest nations in the world.
They have the 6th best education in the world (America ranks at 14th), 5th most economic aid to other nations' poor (America is at 20), and are rated 125th most politically corrupt nation (America at 112),. |
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From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | And by the way, VVV, Cuba had no democracy before the communists. Batista forced factory workers to vote for him en masse at risk of losing their jobs. He was a puppet of casino owners and american businessmen, not to mention rural plantation owners. Think before you talk out of you ass, please. |
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From | | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | I wont vote for the bill as is. |
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From | Moderate Libertarian Alliance Party | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Individualism and anarchy are perfectly compatible with an organized and efficient society. They work within the natural organization inherint in humans and all life forms. The unnatural altruistic order imposed by socialism is not efficient, but rather stifling to individual thought and creativity. |
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From | Kommunistische Arbeitspartei | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Really? Anarchy is a good way to run a country? There have been lots of great anarchies: Somalia, Kosovo...and what is wrong with giving them an education? D you know that educated people commit less crime? So basically, you're causing them to go home and commit more crime. |
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From | Anarchista Kommunista Csapat | To | Debating the Prison Reform Act | | Message | Anarchy is technicly the true communism, a stateless state of society that can only be achieved when people discard all individuality and work together for the greater good. |
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| Vote |
Seats |
| yes | Total Seats: 19 |
| no | Total Seats: 25 |
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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