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Bill: First Treaty Withdrawal of 3183
Details
Submitted by[?]: Paleoliberale Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3183
Description[?]:
| Title self-explanatory. |
Proposals
Article 1
Withdraw from the Keris Free Trade Agreement.
Article 2
Withdraw from the The International Monarchist League.
Article 3
Withdraw from the First TANWO (Treaty Against the New World Order) Accord.
Article 4
Withdraw from the Saridan Neutrality Agreement.
Article 5
Withdraw from the Graaffsberg Declaration of Human Rights.
Article 6
Withdraw from the Recongnition of the Republic of New Englia.
Article 7
Withdraw from the Recognition of the Commonwealth of Yishelem and Beiteynu.
Article 8
Withdraw from the Treaty of Kien.
Article 9
Withdraw from the Dranian Ecotourism Initiative.
Article 10
Withdraw from the Western Terran Colonial Market Accord.
Article 11
Withdraw from the Mordusian Neutrality Pact.
Article 12
Withdraw from the Aldegar Canal Security Treaty.
Article 13
Withdraw from the Tukarali Neutrality Treaty.
Article 14
Proposal[?] to change The professional retirement age.
Old value:: 65
Current: 62
Proposed: 66
Article 15
Proposal[?] to change Waste disposal responsibility.
Old value:: It is the responsibility of local governments to decide on waste disposal regulation.
Current: The government is responsible for waste disposal.
Proposed: The government is responsible for waste disposal.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 07:48:53, September 17, 2011 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the First Treaty Withdrawal of 3183 |
| Message | Several of these treaties are historical and vital to our national and international interests. I'm not sure if the Paleoliberal Party is aware of the backround of these treaties or if they care.... |
| Date | 08:09:47, September 17, 2011 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the First Treaty Withdrawal of 3183 |
| Message | The Paleoliberals are very new and I don't know are aware of the magnitude of these treaties. Even after we just concluded an ordeal to form a cabinet coalition the Paleoliberal Party does not it appear to even to think about perhaps the opinion of the rest of the political sphere concerning these treaties, treaties that the KHP and I have worked towards out entire Particracy career. Did the Paleoliberal Party EVEN read some of these treaties or just threw darts at a board and put them up for withdrawel? Let us review some of these treaties because I have a damn good feeling they were not even read by the bill author: Western Terran Colonial Market Accord: This treaty is the colonial treaty of Dovani, a treaty that was in the works for nearly a century. It affirms Hulstria's colonials holdings on Dovani as well our allies who also hold territory on this continent. Withdrawing us from this treaty would put hundreds of years of work towards this organization to utter waste. Treaty of Kien: This treaty is of utmost importance to the Imperial Crownlands as it concerns a very important matter concerning the South Carina Canal in the East Dovani/South Carina territory we hold. This treaty has Hulstria partake with our allies in operating a very important canal in that territory that funnels trade and business into the trade cities in the Sea of Carnia, a body of water Hulstria claims which for several centuries had remained unconnected to southern Dovani waters. Even if we withdraw from the treaty, the South Carina Canal will remain in the hands of the Joint Canal Administrative Council. The International Monarchist League: After many, many years of corrupt and inane political regimes in our fine land, our nation ratified this treaty to show our faith to the cause of monarchism as well to affirm our status as a monarchy. Hulstria has a long and storied career in the IML. Many of our parties have held leadership positions in the IML and our current monarch, Franz VII, holds a leadership position within the council. Recognition of the Commonwealth of Yishelem and Beiteynu: There is no getting around this; should our dear Governor-General wishes to withdraw us from this treaty then it safe to assume they very well support dictatorships and terrorists. The Commonwealth has faced terrorist assaults and rebellions over the years with this treaty an international coalition to recognize the status of the Commonwealth as an independent and sovereign state under King Philip II currently. Our dear Governor-General doesn't support terrorrism does he? First TANWO (Treaty Against the New World Order) Accord: A historical treaty but nevertheless a testiment to the fight against the terrorist regime known as the New World Order. Hulstria played a very important role in the fight against the New World Order, a vast terrorist network responsible for the slaughter of millions. If the Paleoliberals cared to learn about the NWO they need to look to countries such as Zardugal and Hutori which came under the occupation/assault of the NWO. The NWO used nuclear weapons against millions more in their quest to abolish democracy and government. These are just a few. I know the Paleoliberals are excited on thier newfound power but they must realize that Hulstria existed way before they set foot here and is much more dynamic than they think. I urge the Paleoliberals if they want to be taken seriously to stop these kind of proposals and if they want a reasonable dicussion on treaties then they should do the RESPONSIBLE thing and leave bills open for debate. I know it tempting to put bills to vote and gain some small visibility like you're trying to do here with the garbage article but these are much more important matters and there is history behind some of the things you wish to repeal so do keep this in mind. It is pretty.....self-explanatory. |
| Date | 18:52:29, September 17, 2011 CET | From | Paleoliberale Partei | To | Debating the First Treaty Withdrawal of 3183 |
| Message | We think that many of these treaties are old and out-dated, it is time for new ones, and time to recognize the dangers of foreign influence here. |
| Date | 19:34:42, September 17, 2011 CET | From | Konstitutionelle Monarchie Partei | To | Debating the First Treaty Withdrawal of 3183 |
| Message | You are mistaken as many of these treaties still have major relevance in Hulstria today. Additionally "dangers of foreign influence"? These treaties would not have been signed if Hulstria felt there were dangers to our nation. Finally there is no cap to the amount of treaties we can sign so we can have as many as we like, thus the decision to keep on the historically important First TANWO (Treaty Against the New World Order) Accord in our records. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes |
Total Seats: 314 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 411 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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