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Bill: Senate seats

Details

Submitted by[?]: Federal Republic Progressionist Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: January 3186

Description[?]:

This will increase the number of senate seats to 500.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date22:54:06, September 19, 2011 CET
FromUnited Liberal Caucus
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageThe United Liberal Caucus supports this. This will allow more people to have a voice and a vote in our electoral system.
-Grace S. Lough
Speaker of the United Liberal Caucus

Date00:01:12, September 20, 2011 CET
FromFederal Independent Party
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageChange for the sake of change. There is little rationale for this.

FIP Senator Michael DiSalle

Date01:06:56, September 20, 2011 CET
FromCoalition for National Unity [CNU]
ToDebating the Senate seats
Message"This would only split communities. It makes little sense."

Eva Cameron,
Shadow Internal Affairs Minister & Unionist Senatorial Lead.

Date01:22:45, September 20, 2011 CET
FromFederal Republic Progressionist Party
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageNo it makes perfect sense. We have had 425 seats when we had only 4 parties, but we now have 8. We're using the number of senators used in a 4 party nation when we have 8.

Date02:30:06, September 20, 2011 CET
FromChann National Party (CNP)
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageWe support this bill.

Date05:45:38, September 20, 2011 CET
FromFederal Independent Party
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageThe PSCP's logic is something I would expect from an elementary school student who colors Solentian flags in for civics and government class. Just because more parties comes doesn't mean a change of seats is necessitated. That is possibly the most ridiculous argument ever posed by a party in opposition to the number of seats.

So let me pose this, when the number of parties dwindles down to four, three, or two, which in our nearly 800 year history has happened innumerable times, does that qualify for the seats in the Senate to be reduced? According to the PSCP, every time a party leaves or enters the Senate, the Senate must accordingly shrink/grow to satisfy their needs. The Senate is not to cater to the needs of fledgling and upstart parties, it is an institution that remains unchanged over time for the purpose of consistency.

What a confusing argument, the PSCP continues to amaze me with its senseless proposals.

FIP Senator Lorenzo Cardeau

Date10:36:12, September 20, 2011 CET
FromDemocratic Catholic Party
ToDebating the Senate seats
Message"We reject this law and all the nonsense proposals of PSCP"

Demetreo Nerx
Senate Warden & Leader of SPP

Date23:38:14, September 20, 2011 CET
FromLabour Party
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageLabour agrees with the statements made by Senator Cardeau.

Date03:20:22, September 21, 2011 CET
FromUnited Liberal Caucus
ToDebating the Senate seats
MessageThe ULC supported this before, but we dont agree with the rational the PSCP used to propose this bill

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
 

Total Seats: 24

no
       

Total Seats: 401

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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