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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of October 3188
Details
Submitted by[?]: Chann National Party (CNP)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3189
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the President chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the United National Front
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Democratic Catholic Party
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Chann National Party (CNP)
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Chann National Party (CNP)
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Chann National Party (CNP)
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the United Liberal Caucus
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the United Liberal Caucus
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Labour Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:38:24, September 27, 2011 CET | From | Chann National Party (CNP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | I have proposed the cabinets proportionally to how how many seats a party has. FIP will get three. Unionist and ULC two. And the others one. Let us all work in a bipartisan fashion to get done what needs to be done. |
| Date | 20:30:19, September 27, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | Labour will support a multipartisan coalition. This is an unexpected but welcome move by our friends in the Moderate caucus. Labour Leader Ryan Schroeder |
| Date | 21:25:03, September 27, 2011 CET | From | Chann National Party (CNP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | The Supreme President, Sotear Chann, recognizes the fact that each party represents different pockets of the population and therefore it is important that we have representatives of ALL the people on the cabinet, not just those of the left and those of the right. |
| Date | 04:12:00, September 28, 2011 CET | From | United National Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | We appreciate the effort taken by the Supreme President to propose a cabinet which includes all parties. We are happy with the ministry given to us. However we don't approve his decision to allocate Defence, Finance & Foreign Affairs ministries to his own party in a situation where MLC is not the largest party. Richard Smith Leader of UNF. |
| Date | 04:54:57, September 28, 2011 CET | From | United Liberal Caucus | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | The United Front should approve this bill. In past cabinets the so-called People's Alliance as purposefully shut out of the ruling coalition for their extreme views. This is a great way to move past that phase in our nation's history by becoming mainstream parties. Working within a framework that should be accepted by all. And the allocation of the seats is fine. If anything the Progressives should get the seat currently being assigned to the SPP. They do after all have more seats. -Grace S. Lough |
| Date | 05:00:55, September 28, 2011 CET | From | United National Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | But don't you think keeping the 3 main ministries with a party which doesn't have the largest share of the senate is questionable? |
| Date | 05:56:24, September 28, 2011 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | We outright refuse to be part of a cabinet that will be instrumental in dismantling Solentian heritage and tradition as we know it. The MLC has earned our opposition to its agenda and we will derail every attempt it makes to install change for the sake of change. This unwarranted act of political war will not be left unanswered. FIP Senator Mario LaHood |
| Date | 11:45:48, September 28, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Catholic Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | "These piles are unreasonable. The SPP now has nothing to do with the radical parties such as the ULC and the MLC or Labour. This is a disastrous Cabinet" Kate House Secretary of the SPP |
| Date | 16:35:58, September 28, 2011 CET | From | Labour Party | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | You are the true radicals. |
| Date | 21:26:26, September 28, 2011 CET | From | Chann National Party (CNP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | The only radicals I see are those who would oppose a cabinet that is inclusive of all parties... whereas the cabinets of the FIP and the UNF and SPP have been strictly partisan and in favor of parties who happen to hold their views while shutting out opposition. True Democracy means Change, whether it be gradual or whether it be revolutionary. Remember that we also represent the views of the citizens who have elected us, in essence, not all citizens support your traditionalist and radical ultra-conservative views. To demand that only your views are reasonable is to say to those citizens who do not agree are radical. You have called those we represent radicals. The FIP has declared "political war" upon the citizens we represent... The FIP is responsible for this "political civil war", not the parties that happen to represent those who have a different view. |
| Date | 21:38:59, September 28, 2011 CET | From | Chann National Party (CNP) | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | UNITED NATIONAL FRONT: "However we don't approve his decision to allocate Defence, Finance & Foreign Affairs ministries to his own party in a situation where MLC is not the largest party." Let me remind you of what FIP proposed in the Supreme Presidential Cabinet 3183 -3184 ( http://classic.particracy.net/viewbill.php?billid=327865 ) At that time the Moderate Liberal Caucus was the largest party, yet: Proposals Article 1 The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the Unionist Party Article 2 The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Solentian People's Party Article 3 The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the United National Front Article 4 The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the United National Front Article 5 The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the United National Front Article 6 The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Unionist Party Article 7 The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Solentian People's Party Article 8 The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party Article 9 The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Unionist Party Article 10 The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Solentian People's Party Article 11 The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party Article 12 The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Federal Independent Party Article 13 The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Unionist Party |
| Date | 15:17:15, October 01, 2011 CET | From | United National Front | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of October 3188 |
| Message | To: MLC. you must also remember that we abstained from voting for that proposal. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 190 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 210 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 25 |
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