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Bill: Freedom of Speach to Preach
Details
Submitted by[?]: AM Radical Libertarian Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3196
Description[?]:
WHEREAS It is not the place of the government to interfere with the practice of religion in our land, AND In order for any institution to grow, it must be allowed to place it's message before the people, THEREFORE it is incumbent upon our Senate to revoke the unjustified and paternalistic ban on religious advertisement and promotion |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The state's intervention in the appointment of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state nominates ministers of religion, but the appointment is left up to the religious communities themselves.
Current: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the appointment of ministers of any religion whatsoever.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are not permitted to promote themselves or advertise in any manner whatsoever.
Current: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Proposed: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: Ministers of religion shall receive no remuneration whatsoever.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 16:07:54, October 08, 2011 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr Speaker; For far too long has the state felt it incumbent upon itself to interfere in the purely private matter of the relationship between a citizen and his god or gods. This practice is offensive to teh individual, as it implies that he is incapable of making a rational choice without protection; as well as harmful to the state, by enlarging it where no need exists. We of the RLP therefore propose that adult citizens of our fair land be allowed to act as adults, and worship as they please! |
Date | 16:21:19, October 08, 2011 CET | From | Likaton Unity Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr Speaker, This is completely outrageus. There are approxamitely 40 000 000 Likatonians who are secular and do not believe in any God. They do not want openly religious advertising taking away from their daily lives, and do not which to have religious inteference in their lives. We have a duty to protect our citizens from dangerous religions and need to have the ability to fulfill that duty to our citizens. We are currently at war with a fanatical religious organization, the AAPK from Kafuristan, who may attempt to start religious practises in our great country if these laws are shot down. We will vote heavily against this bill. |
Date | 18:58:31, October 09, 2011 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr. Speaker, These 40 000 000 secular Likatonians are adults, who can make up their own minds about listening to any advertising they may come across. If standards suggested by my honorable representative from the LUP were the norm, then all advertisements for meat products should be banned because of the vegatarians in our land. Further, who are we to determine what is a 'dangerous' religion. It has been rightly said that a cult is any religion sufficiently different from ones own. Let the ideas marketplace decide, and let freedom ring from the pulpits of our land! |
Date | 19:21:14, October 10, 2011 CET | From | Likaton Unity Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr. Speaker, It is outrageus for the honorable representative from the AM to suggest that having religions openly advertise will result in more freedoms. We do not stop people from believing in any faith, but we do stop those faiths from crowding and abusing the grand majority of Likatonians who do not want to be bothered by these relgious groups. Article 1 is also completely unneeded. The state must be able to stop dangerous preachers who are voted in by a small group of people to put their will in front of the people. We must be able to stop dangerous preachers who risk the culture and secular nature of Likatonians from becoming ministers. The LUP are also strongly opposed to Article 3. Ministers should volunteer their time to the faith, it should not be paid by the taxpayers, the majority of whom are not believers in any religion. Why should these people payt he salary of men who do nothing for them or their country. This bill is completely against the wishes of the majority of Likatonians, and the LUP will never support it. |
Date | 16:58:08, October 11, 2011 CET | From | AM Radical Libertarian Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr. Speaker, Before putting this measure up for a vote, we wish to correct the member from the LUP on one point. Article 3 does not require the taxpayers to pay ministers, it only allows the congregation to do so if they wish. |
Date | 20:39:53, October 11, 2011 CET | From | Likaton Unity Party | To | Debating the Freedom of Speach to Preach |
Message | Mr. Speaker, We stand corrected in our opinion with Article 3. That being said, we strongly oppose Articles 1, 2 and 4. |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |
yes | Total Seats: 213 | |
no |
Total Seats: 88 | |
abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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