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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of December 3204
Details
Submitted by[?]: Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA]
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3205
Description[?]:
| Proposing a Cabinet |
Proposals
Article 1
As per the Constitution, the Llywydd (President) chairs the cabinet.
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Libertarian Alliance
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party [SDP]
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Social Democratic Party [SDP]
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the New Marxist Party [NMP]
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA]
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Independence Party
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA]
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA]
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Independence Party
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Libertarian Alliance
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA]
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Independence Party
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:55:50, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Since the NMP has the lowest seats, they get one posistion, the rest (besides the inactive FRP) get 2+ |
| Date | 01:58:26, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | UNtil we get agreement by the minimum parties to equal half the seats, it shall remain in debate |
| Date | 02:00:39, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | This isn't logical. I have far more seats in Parliament than the Independence Party and they still get more cabinet positions. |
| Date | 02:01:29, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | First of all, its one position, second of all, did you listen to me the first time. In politics, the ruling coaltion tends to get more. I can totally kick you and still get the required seats. Be lucky you have some |
| Date | 02:05:40, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Not necessarily. (In the 2010 Australian Federal Election, the result was a Hung Parliament with the Liberal-National Coalition (who are actually conservative, not liberal) holding more seats than the Labour Party. And yet, the Independents and the Greens sided with Labour to form government. So it isn't always the largest party that gets to form government). |
| Date | 02:07:24, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Me and the Independance Party are in a semi-coalition 247+74=321 135+104+38=277 So in total, our coalition is bigger. I urge you accept this so that we can get a cabinet going and move on |
| Date | 02:14:03, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Fine. |
| Date | 02:24:50, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Social Democratic Party [SDP] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | If someone wants to trade us our seat on food and Agriculture for something, we'll accept that, but other than that, we're fine with this |
| Date | 02:33:20, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Alright, procedding to a vote |
| Date | 18:34:00, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Just a warning, if you vote no or ir you dio not respond to the vote of a Cabinet, you are cut from the next proposal |
| Date | 20:38:20, October 30, 2011 CET | From | New Alorian Alliance [NAA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Why are you forming a coalition with more than the halve of the seats? |
| Date | 21:01:46, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of December 3204 |
| Message | Were trying to be fair as there is pretty much two political alliances. The bigger one of the Independance Party and I And then theres the SDP, Libertarian Alliance, and the NMP So we need to include all of one or none at all and the Independance Party and I are a few seats off from half. PLus its just fair to give every party a little bit |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 560 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 127 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 38 |
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