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Bill: Return to the Supremacy of Parliament
Details
Submitted by[?]: Libertarian Alliance
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: September 3223
Description[?]:
| Removing powers from the President and giving them to the Parliament is the most democratic way to run a country. This allows for robust debate within the political sphere, each elected member of each electorate gets a greater say and input in how the country is run and removes the risk of corruption in government as opposition parties get greater powers to hold the ruling party to account. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Current: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Proposed: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 02:34:00, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | Actually it is less Democratic since the Prime Minister is not directly elected by the people |
| Date | 02:02:43, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | That's where you're getting confused. The Prime Minister is the leader of a party with the largest seats. The people may not vote directly for the Prime Minister (unless you live in his electorate) but they know very well who is the leader of the party and they know very well who they will be getting as leader when they vote in that party. It is way more democratic than the presidential system. It's hard trying to explain this to an American...... |
| Date | 02:05:34, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | But the Prime Minister is appointed by the Legislature and the majority party may not have half the seats. Therefore the "People's Prime Minister" may be cheated out to the "Majority Coalitions Prime Minister" And no it is not, they don't elect their Prime Minister directly, so how could it be more democratic? |
| Date | 02:11:47, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | The Prime Minister is chosen by the people, they lead their party to an election and the people vote for that particular party. That is the way a parliamentary system works. It is democratic as the Parliament now holds two people to account, the President and Prime Minister and power is distributed evenly. It isn't all massed on one person, which is grossly undemocratic. Read up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_minister |
| Date | 02:16:23, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | But the univers (AKA Game Mechanics) does not allow a directly elected Prime Minister. Only one appointed by Parliament. If yours was the case, we would consider it |
| Date | 02:26:45, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libertarian Alliance | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | Oh for Christ's sake.... The game does allow for a directly elected Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is the leader of the party and after an election, if the party wins enough seats to govern in their own right, the party leader becomes Prime Minister. However, this game is designed to produce a Hung Parliament nearly every time, so a ruling coalition must be formed and other minority parties decide who gets to form government. Nothing undemocratic about that. It holds government in place and greater say is given to the electorate. Whereas a presidential system just gives the president supreme power and minority parties can do little to hold the president to account. |
| Date | 03:23:55, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | We still shall not support, you come from a Parlimentary system and we disagree with that view. Its that simple. We think its less Democratic, you think its more. End of story |
| Date | 03:32:20, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libservative Conservacrats | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | A brilliant idea. DPA, there are statistics to prove that the parliamentary system is the most democratic form of government. 9 out of the top 10 most democratic countries as of 2010 are parliamentary democracies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index It's not a matter of what you think is more democratic, it's a matter of what the facts say and the facts are all pointing in the direction of parliamentary democracies. End of story. Finito la comedia. |
| Date | 05:44:19, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Democratic Party of Aloria [DPA] | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | I might also remind you the UNited States is quite high up there. Anyways, for now we have more than a third and can crush this legislation. End of story |
| Date | 08:24:23, October 30, 2011 CET | From | Libservative Conservacrats | To | Debating the Return to the Supremacy of Parliament |
| Message | I might also remind you that 21 out of the 26 countries classified as "Full Democracies" are Parliamentary Democracies. The story continues.... |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 529 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 196 |
| Random fact: By default the head of government is the ultimate authority within a national government. In general terms, heads of government are expected to consult with cabinet colleagues (including those from other parties) before making significant decisions but they remain responsible for government action. |
| Random quote: "Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one's government is not necessarily to secure freedom." - Friedrich Hayek |