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Bill: Electoraal system reform of 3217
Details
Submitted by[?]: Monarchic National Front
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3218
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The method used to determine the number of seats each region receives in the national legislature.
Old value:: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Current: A proportional algorithm that gives a very small advantage to larger regions.
Proposed: A pseudo-proportional algorithm that gives considerable advantage to smaller regions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:17:27, November 23, 2011 CET | From | Monarchic National Front | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | We are aware we proposed this reform years ago but now in Assembly there are new parties and a new President so we try to repropose it. Our Republic has 2 provinces different from population. - Vojnový Pokrik has 19,918,879 citizens - Barovia has 7,880,793 citizens With the actual electoral system Barovia province is absolutley non influential in the electoral contest since Vojnový Pokrik has the majority of seats (71.65%). In addition with the increase of number of parliament seats Borovia risk to be underrepresented in the Chamber. So with the aim to re-equilibrate the situation we propose to reform the electoral system to a pseudo proportional which give more representation to Borovia province. |
| Date | 17:43:47, November 23, 2011 CET | From | Gréne Gebéorscipe Sylf Vorona | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | This is illogical; it is unfair for Barovia to be given more seats than Vojnový Pokrik since then Vojnový Pokrik would be the ones underrepresented which defeats the purpose of this bill. The current system allows for seats to be drawn with population in a certain area being taken into account rather than equal seats or what you suggested which would mean that their would be no fair representation. |
| Date | 08:32:05, November 24, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | Yes we fully agree with the Green Party. This is a stupid bill that will that will take away fair representation to the majority of people in this country. It is logical that the more people there are in a province, the more representation is needed. |
| Date | 15:43:17, November 24, 2011 CET | From | Monarchic National Front | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | Defining a proposal as stupid is very offensive and unmotivated. With this arrogant way to do politic you discredit all Assembly and all your voters. |
| Date | 08:44:57, November 25, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | Tell it to somebody who cares! |
| Date | 11:17:33, November 25, 2011 CET | From | Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Electoraal system reform of 3217 |
| Message | Actually, I apologise. Ignore my most recent comment. What does the GP and NDF think of giving fair representation to both provinces, regardless of population? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 214 | ||
| no |
Total Seats: 536 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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