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Bill: Cabinet Proposal of May 3221
Details
Submitted by[?]: Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill presents the formation of a cabinet. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. Traditionally, parties in the proposal vote yes, others (the opposition) vote no. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in and all parties in the proposal have voted yes, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3222
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
The responsibilites of Head of Government will be conducted by the 
Liberale Demokratiske Partiet
Article 2
The responsibilites of Science and Technology will be conducted by the Mitten Partiet
Article 3
The responsibilites of Food and Agriculture will be conducted by the Mitten Partiet
Article 4
The responsibilites of Environment and Tourism will be conducted by the Mitten Partiet
Article 5
The responsibilites of Trade and Industry will be conducted by the Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse
Article 6
The responsibilites of Foreign Affairs will be conducted by the Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse
Article 7
The responsibilites of Internal Affairs will be conducted by the Mitten Partiet
Article 8
The responsibilites of Finance will be conducted by the Liberale Demokratiske Partiet
Article 9
The responsibilites of Defence will be conducted by the Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse
Article 10
The responsibilites of Justice will be conducted by the Liberale Demokratiske Partiet
Article 11
The responsibilites of Infrastructure and Transport will be conducted by the Liberale Demokratiske Partiet
Article 12
The responsibilites of Health and Social Services will be conducted by the Liberale Demokratiske Partiet
Article 13
The responsibilites of Education and Culture will be conducted by the Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 23:15:25, December 01, 2011 CET | From | Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | OOC: We really shouldn't have given a party that had taken mayors hostage cabinet seats... |
| Date | 23:49:58, December 01, 2011 CET | From | Anarkosyndikalisterna | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | We urge the other parties to vote against this anti-democratic attempt to deprive the supporters of Kazulia's largest party of any representation. The mayors were taken prisoner only because they were unelected and because KNA refused to allow local people to have a say over how their communities are governed. |
| Date | 00:05:19, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | The law did not require the mayors to be elected. Threatening to murder innocent civil servants because you disagree with the the legitimately legislated mayoral selection process isn't something that the parties of Kazulia should support. We were unaware that disagreement over legislative positions was a legitimate reason to hold people hostage. If so, the KNA could probably find many things to start taking hostages over considering the current state of Kazulian legislation. The KNA, however, will not be taking any such action because we respect the rule of law and know how to behave responsibly in a democratic state (and yes, we are a democratic state aside from the monarchy and a few other minor positions). The Anarkosyndikalisterna seems to feel they have the right to take violent action whenever another party disagrees with their positions and should not be rewarded for doing so. MP/LDP: Check the Kazulian Royal Defence Council. |
| Date | 00:34:48, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Anarkosyndikalisterna | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | We stated that the mayors would be a potential target, not that they would be murdered. As you should know none of the mayors were harmed, they were simply detained so as to prevent them from carrying out their duties (which they had no business to be doing in the first place since they were unelected). The right of people to elect the local officials who rule over them is more than simply a "disagreement over legislative positions" - it is about the fight between democracy and despotism. We are pleased that the former won, not least through the brave actions of our supporters in Sør-Trøndelag. |
| Date | 00:50:30, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | Declaring mayors "potential targets" implies a threat to their lives IMO. What else were you going to do? Hole up with them in their offices indefinitely? The law did not require they be elected. Therefore, your actions were illegitimate and illegal. Responsibility for the KAC "victory" lies more with the portions of the political establishment that were willing to show restraint than it does with the "brave" law breaking of your more thuggish supporters. Your strike would've been easily crushed had we had less concern for the lives of innocent Kazulian citizens. |
| Date | 01:46:19, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | LDP: Do you want some specific cabinet positions that this proposal doesn't provide? |
| Date | 02:19:23, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Kazulian Nasjonal Allianse | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | Thanks for changing your vote, LDP. |
| Date | 03:17:57, December 02, 2011 CET | From | Liberale Demokratiske Partiet | To | Debating the Cabinet Proposal of May 3221 |
| Message | ooc: I read the thing and realized im damaging the rping. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 298 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 162 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Party candidates for head of state elections are not visible to the public. This means that you cannot see who will run and who will not, which adds another strategic element to the elections. |
| Random quote: "Capitalism demands the best of every man- his rationality- and rewards him accordingly. It leaves every man free to choose the work he likes, to specialize in it, to trade his product for the products of others, and to go as far on the road of achievement as his ability and ambition will carry him." - Ayn Rand |