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Bill: Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.

Details

Submitted by[?]: Slaytanic Wehrmacht

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 2147

Description[?]:

quote by wouters:
"But sometimes, roleplaying goes wrong. Therefore, this thread will list general enforcable roleplaying rules. These could for these forums, as well as for the game.

Rule #1

The game has priority. That means that if the game news contradicts roleplaying, the game news is correct and the roleplaying is off. In some cases the role playing could be subject to removal if it violates any of the rules below due to the inconsistency."

This bill proposes to end this annoying war by using the power of our creators to force all Deltarians to leave immediately.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date08:53:55, November 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageCan we hear an argument in favor? Or a proposed RP resolution?

Date09:09:33, November 27, 2005 CET
FromInternational Society of Bankers
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Messageya, I dont think we should just go ignore, we are already in it.

Date09:14:11, November 27, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Messagethis war event annoys certain parties that much that they think about quitting the game. I think, if a rp event spoils the fun for some people, you should not have your "fun" at playing war at the cost of other people's fun.

lm: We are already in it, but we were not allowed to decide wether we want to be in it or not.

Date09:53:51, November 27, 2005 CET
FromInternational Society of Bankers
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageI dont see how this is ruining the game for people, if they want to they can personally ignore it but it should hurt the majority who support the RP.

Date16:34:45, November 27, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageI opposed the war from the start, I have said that I think RP war is stupid, etc.

However, the forum is now full of things to do with this, so I dont think we can just say that it never happened, not at this point. LCLC is a great player, and Id hate to see him leave, but we need to figure out a way out, something that makes sense.

Date16:36:39, November 27, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Messagewe can figure something out once this bill passes, sure.

Date16:54:49, November 27, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Messagefor example, mass dissertation, increasing costs, and increasing resistance against this war at home forced the deltarians to withdraw their armies. We will find a reason for sure. But first, i want these deltarians gone.

Date17:34:28, November 27, 2005 CET
FromCNT/AFL
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageObviously, it would make no sense for the Deltarians to just pack up and leave, but it would really ruin the fun of the game if the Deltarians actually take over and occupy Lodamun. There has to be an RP reason for them to leave. I'm sitting on the fence for this one.

Date19:34:35, November 27, 2005 CET
FromNational Fiscal Group
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Message<|Perhaps suggest a helot-style revolt? It would certainly suit the Deltarians' style of government.|>

Date23:00:20, November 27, 2005 CET
FromJuche Front (The Resistance)
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageWhatever the rest of you want. As far as I am concerned we still have a functioning government.

FR, you started the war. If you are against it, tell the Deltarians and stop it. Or propose a resolution asking them to leave and vote for it not against it.

Date02:09:53, November 28, 2005 CET
FromLodamun Centre-Left Coalition
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageFive. Very. Simple. Words. GET. THEM. OUT. OF. HERE.

Date06:50:33, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageI agree with the CNT/AFL on this one. Would everyone agree that we want a speedy RP resolution of it?(I think they do, except perhaps those voting "no").

Juche, cut it out. I didnt start the war, I didnt want the war, in fact I did my best once others had claimed it had started to convince people that it hadnt. I havent gotten "involved", even though it would make sense, either.
I dont know what your problem is with me, btw.

Date07:49:05, November 28, 2005 CET
FromInternational Society of Bankers
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageI have been trying to get it to end in RP, and it doesnt seem to be working well... they want us to sign that treaty.

Date07:50:38, November 28, 2005 CET
FromInternational Society of Bankers
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageFR though, if you asked they would leave, just get your party to have a change of opinion or somthing, and ask them to leave.

Date08:43:20, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Message"God tells us to" sort of thing?

Date08:43:35, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageIt just seems a little inadequate.

Date10:03:05, November 28, 2005 CET
FromLodamun Centre-Left Coalition
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageOOC: I find it horrible that the MLTP and LM refuse to kick Deltaria out. And the FR. Anyhow, Wouter's got word, and he'll end it if RP doesn't, hopefully.

Date10:36:56, November 28, 2005 CET
FromLodamun Centre-Left Coalition
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageOOC: For that matter, the FR too. An FR yes vote would immediately end this.

Date11:02:07, November 28, 2005 CET
FromSlaytanic Wehrmacht
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageFR said they oppose the war, so i see no reason why they should not vote yes on this bill.
If you need a RP reason, what about this:
The guerilla war of the resistance caused too much losses for the Deltarian, so they decided Lodamun is not a country worth invading.

Date11:24:43, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageI am willing to end it, but we need to do it legitimately. I will vote yes if assurances are made that it will be done in an IC manner by those involved, such as LM and HB. Calling in immediate divine intervention isnt the best way to have continuity, and now that this mess is out in the open, all sorts of other nations have been doing things pertaining to it. We cant pretend it didnt happen, not after so much of it has been supported by at least 7 parties here. Just look at the tags in the party names.

I want to end it, I never wanted to start it, but, if I understand this bill correctly, this isnt the right way to do so.

Date11:26:20, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
MessageBtw, LM, what specific complaints do you have against the treaty? They proposed it, we can sign it, if there is a problem, tell them what it is and negotiate. It makes more sense than negotiating with imaginary guns at least.

Date11:44:46, November 28, 2005 CET
From Tuesday Is Coming
ToDebating the Expelling the Deltarians from Lodamun.
Messagehttp://www.takeforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=49244&mforum=particracy#49244

If it fails by fault of the Deltarians, we will support a revote of this bill.

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