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Bill: No homo millitary
Details
Submitted by[?]: Crimson Crusade
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3244
Description[?]:
| It must be horrible for homosexuals to serve in the military. Those who struggle with such sin must be tempted every day, and yet millitary service is mandatory for them. Let's relieve them from this. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Current: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Proposed: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:49:52, January 15, 2012 CET | From |  Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | "Preposterous. No man shall be turned away from his great patriotic duty. No man shall be told otherwise. The M.A.R.C. Guard is proud to accept all, regardless of race, religion or sexual preference. If you wish to lower your fighting strength and morale, so be it, but we'll have no part." |
| Date | 22:08:02, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | As if the concept was not enough, even the name of this bill is offensive to the People. |
| Date | 22:16:04, January 15, 2012 CET | From | Crimson Crusade | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | "You sound like that now when it suits you, yet you proposed to introduce apartheid against those who consider them Selucians together with your fascist allies. We believe that the military isn't the most well-suited place for someone struggling with homosexuality, and we shall be merciful." |
| Date | 22:20:54, January 15, 2012 CET | From | Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | "What a ridiculous comparison. Of course we wish to rid ourselves of you Selucians, you are trying to enslave our people! We have done nothing other than protect the interests of our people. You are not our people." |
| Date | 22:24:37, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | There was never an intent to bring about apartheid against the Selucians, but the pro-Crusader groups attempted to enact genocide against the Pntek people and have been vocal in their contempt for those of a Majartan descent. The only struggle homosexuals face comes from those who would condemn them for being who they are; people like the Crusaders. As it stands the don't-ask-don't-tell policy is in place to protect them from those would subjugate them; inquiring as to a person's sexual orientation is a punishable offense. Homosexuality is not a sin and nor is it a crime. A man or woman should not be barred from defending their homeland against interlopers because of sexual characteristics. Even if your oppressive laws pass, understand that the NLA and MARC will continue to allow homosexuals to serve in their organizations. |
| Date | 22:39:30, January 15, 2012 CET | From | Cirichád Déofolwítga | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | If the fascists continue to pose a threat to your country, we shall be ready to send 6,666 Death Knight volunteers to assist our comrades against the fascist insurgency. I swear on my own unholy magnificence that we have no homos among our ranks. Aesir the Warlock |
| Date | 23:32:29, January 15, 2012 CET | From | Aurora Libertatis | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | We support this. Homosexuality is a disease. |
| Date | 23:42:59, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | The fascists are the Selucian interlopers. Understand outsider, less than seven thousand volunteers will not dissuade the MARC-loyal military. |
| Date | 23:43:32, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | The fascists are the Selucian interlopers. Understand outsider, less than seven thousand volunteers will not dissuade the MARC-loyal military. |
| Date | 23:43:49, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | The fascists are the Selucian interlopers. Understand outsider, less than seven thousand volunteers will not dissuade the MARC-loyal military. |
| Date | 23:45:19, January 15, 2012 CET | From | Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | "Bring it on, Davostani pig. I bet I can find 6,666 trees to hang their bodies before the day is over." - Major General Rhadamanthus Damokles, M.A.R.C. |
| Date | 23:46:33, January 15, 2012 CET | From | New Lerna Affiliation | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | OOC: Well I have no idea why that got posted three times. |
| Date | 01:16:45, January 16, 2012 CET | From | Crimson Crusade | To | Debating the No homo millitary |
| Message | "We applaud the care of the Davostani Knights for their friends and long time allies." OOC: Maybe you have a problem with your bowser. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 49 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 12 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 15 |
| Random fact: Culturally Open nations can adopt advisory/non-enforceable Nation Descriptions. See http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6242 |
| Random quote: "Depressions and mass unemployment are not caused by the free market but by government interference in the economy." - Ludwig von Mises |