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Bill: Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act

Details

Submitted by[?]: United Republics Party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This bill proposes the withdrawal from a treaty. It will require half of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 3245

Description[?]:

This bill will not be put to vote until after next election.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date20:54:57, January 15, 2012 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageThis treaty is disturbing for several reasons. Article 3 would obligate us to intervene in Likatonia if the people rose up to topple that government. Even worse is the possibility that Likatonia could foment discord in Lodamun and use it as justification to invade. The treaty isn't even purely defensively in nation since it has a mandate to invade other countries who do not comply with the values.it outlines (article 6). Currently13 countries do not comply with treaty terms. Àre we expected to be at war with all of them under the obligations of this treaty? Finally, Lodamun is already a member of the Northern Delegate Alliance which is a far better treaty for purposes of defense.

Date20:56:35, January 15, 2012 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageOOC: sometimes I use a mobile device so forgive typos and slightly off autoreplaced words.

Date07:32:59, January 16, 2012 CET
FromDemocrats
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageWe'd back this proposal.

Date16:32:37, January 16, 2012 CET
FromLodamun Conservative Coalition
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageI agree with URP. I dont think we should make Defense Pacts with our neighbors. We should only remain friendly with them.

Date16:39:37, January 16, 2012 CET
FromLodamun Conservative Coalition
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageI agree with URP. I dont think we should make Defense Pacts with our neighbors. We should only remain friendly with them.

Date20:45:32, January 18, 2012 CET
FromVerde Nationalist Party
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageWe believe that the importance of showing a united front between Lodamun and Likatonia against Valruzian hostilities takes presidence over a vaguely-worded pledge to intervene in the unlikely event of an internal revolt in Likatonia. The security of the Republics come first.

Date21:38:00, January 18, 2012 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageVerde, Lodamun is already in the far better worded Northern Seleyan Alliance to which Likatonia is also a member.

Date21:40:27, January 18, 2012 CET
FromLodamun Conservative Coalition
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageAll of us agree that Lodamun comes first. We all look for Lodamun well being. I dont think this treaty acually achieves that.

Date22:21:01, January 18, 2012 CET
FromDemocrats
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageVNP, there is a new Democratic government in Valruzia. Once the new cabinet is in place I intend to explore an agreement with the Valruzians to firm up our relationship in a positive manner.

Date00:21:32, January 19, 2012 CET
FromUnited Republics Party
ToDebating the Northern Seleyan Treaties Consolidation Act
MessageThe URp looked into this a bit by checking past bills there. Although Valruzia passed an economic embargo against Lodamun, it has been lifted. There currently seems to be no hostility there. Perhaps Valruzian entry to the North Seleya Alliance should be suggested to them.

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Total Seats: 73

no
  

Total Seats: 27

abstain

    Total Seats: 0


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