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Bill: Abolition of the state religion
Details
Submitted by[?]: Seosavists Republican party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: May 2150
Description[?]:
| The current state religion is merely a waste of tax payers money and only provides services already provided by other christian religions. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Current: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Proposed: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Current: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Proposed: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:54:08, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | An important question for the DUP, does the High Church of Luthori (the Anglo-Catholic half) recognise the Deltarian Pope (Innocent I/Jana I) or Pope Leo I? |
| Date | 07:47:45, November 29, 2005 CET | From | United Conservative Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | Get that smell of burning faggots wafting in the wind? Ask not for whom the faggots burn: they burn for thee. |
| Date | 07:57:10, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | Ask not who the ignorant hate: they hate thee. If the State Church is homophobic, do we want one? If the State Church officially supports hate, fear, warmongering, and autocracy, do we want one? |
| Date | 08:31:48, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | It's for me to speak for the Luthori-Catholics, but I'd like to think they didn't recognise the Deltarian Popes and see them a political, not Christian, leaders. |
| Date | 08:44:11, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | Well it is hard to tell, since the CPP is part of the CML, which recognises the Deltarian Catholic Church. |
| Date | 08:45:50, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | The Church of Luthori is democratic. I would say that whoever has most seats out of the LEC and CPP speaks for the majority of Luthori-Catholics at that time. Fair? |
| Date | 08:53:16, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | Seems fair, but I'll happily share the role with them. I'm just worried about the influence of the Deltarian Popes and CML. |
| Date | 08:55:37, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | We may be forced into a position of recognising the Delatrian Pontiff in return for military support, but I have real problems with this atheist's beliefs. |
| Date | 09:06:45, November 29, 2005 CET | From | Luthori Green Party | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | I have problems with most of their beliefs. |
| Date | 16:37:19, December 02, 2005 CET | From | Covenanters (IA) | To | Debating the Abolition of the state religion |
| Message | In the Terran Religions thread on the forum I have declared that Innocent I is the anti-Christ. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 113 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 328 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 198 |
| Random fact: Submitting a bill without any proposals in it will not attract or detract voters. It will not raise your visibility or change your political position. |
| Random quote: "In any country there must be people who have to die. They are the sacrifices any nation has to make to achieve law and order." - Idi Amin |