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Bill: Opposing religious indoctrination
Details
Submitted by[?]: Communist Party of Telamon
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3261
Description[?]:
| As the title states. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: Religious schools are not allowed.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: The government leaves this decision up to the schools themselves.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:29:08, February 20, 2012 CET | From | Telemonian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Opposing religious indoctrination |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Religion should be kept outside of our public schools for good! Science is the only way forward for this nation! |
| Date | 01:56:26, February 20, 2012 CET | From | Catholic Political Union | To | Debating the Opposing religious indoctrination |
| Message | This legislation would decimate Telamon's excellent network of Catholic schools. Is this really what we want for our children? Telamon needs to move beyond this knee-jerk militant secularist fundamentalism. Leroy Adams (Chairman of the CPU) |
| Date | 02:09:28, February 20, 2012 CET | From | National Imperial Party of Telamon | To | Debating the Opposing religious indoctrination |
| Message | While the Cult of Shuzzag-Khan is a fine religion and notable for heroism in the past secularism is essential to a successful Telamon. |
| Date | 10:15:05, February 20, 2012 CET | From | United Liberal Alliance | To | Debating the Opposing religious indoctrination |
| Message | Mr Speaker We agree with previous speakers that the state should be secular. That is essential in a modern, liberal democracy. However, that does not mean that religion should have no role in public life. A truly secular state is not one in which all religious imagery, symbolism and practice is banned in public life. For that way lies a brand of militant secularism which to its adherents is every bit a creed as the religions it professes to oppose, and is every bit as dangerous as militant religious fundamentalism. Fundamentalism in all it's forms has no place in Telamon today. I tell you know, a truly secular state is one which allows those of all religions and none the freedom to practice their beliefs in an open and tolerant society - the freedom of choice. This bill would remove that freedom, and would also close down some excellent schools. We must have a variety of providers within the education sector, and religious schools play an important role in providing choice. The current law ensures that religious schools are strictly regulates to meet national standards and to avoid any sort of fundamentalist religious indoctrination. As such e see no reason to change the law; to close some excellent schools; to deny choice to our people; and, most importantly, to promote illiberal secular fundamentalism in this country. John Russell ULA Party Leader |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 280 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 470 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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