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Bill: M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy"
Details
Submitted by[?]: Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: July 3274
Description[?]:
| OOC: Okay, the N.L.A. and I are both in favor of installing the House of Mederagaar back to the throne. I have little faith that both the O.N.C.P. and the Democrat Party will support anything other than the restoration of the House of Belknap. The House of Mederagaar took command of the failing Pontesi state after the House of Belknap was dissolved. Likewise, The House of Mederagaar took command of the resistance against the Selucian interlopers. Without us, there would be no independent Pontesi nation, and very likely no Ptnek people. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 10:21:22, February 23, 2012 CET | From |  Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | OOC: The Belknap Family have been a part of Pontesian History since 2574 and have defended Pontesi from Zionist Imperialist and Selucian Aggression for more then 500 years. It is unlikely that we will find a solution to this problem quickly so instead of rushing to a conflict, I propose that we continue with the HoS election, but change the title to the Steward of the Realm. We can RP that the Steward is elected to safeguard the throne like the Steward of Gondor in the Lord of the Ring. Or we could always have political fight, that should be fun. As long as we don't make it into a civil war. |
| Date | 17:40:24, February 23, 2012 CET | From | One Nation Conservative Party | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | We support the Democrat Party's position. |
| Date | 18:42:22, February 23, 2012 CET | From | Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | OOC: Actually, I was considering merging the two houses with some sort of royal wedding. Or, perhaps a joint Monarchy along the lines of the Glorious Revolution in England. Frankly, I don't really feel the need to rush to a civil war so soon after the last. |
| Date | 00:12:07, February 24, 2012 CET | From | Cirichád Déofolwítga | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | To the August Parliament of the Cedar Throne, the Pontesi Realm Honourable Members of Parliament, The Imperial Government of Davostan would like to ensure the rightful House of Mederagaar of it's support, should need ever arise. Even though we still do not recognize any legitimate authority in Selucian Pontesi but the leaders of the Union of Imperial Crusader Kingdoms, there is no viable crusader movement in the area as for current, and the opposition has no right in the world to try to restore the weak and incompetent Belknaps. By our Unholy Morals, these lands are yours, you conquered them by force no matter if we preferred the rule of our allies. We shall gladly slaughter any rebels in your name. Signed, Caspar Shroudsoul Foreign Minister of the Unholy Davostan Empire |
| Date | 05:20:27, February 24, 2012 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | As this is Pontesi internal affairs, I respectfully ask the Foreign Minister of the Unholy Davostan Empire to keep his unnecessary and largely idiotic comment to himself as we could care less about what he thinks on the situation. I also call for the current government to adopt the same stand as this is about Pontesi and we see no reason to involve foreigners into our discussion less it could be accused of a puppet of Davostan. Jonathan Spencer MP |
| Date | 15:24:01, February 24, 2012 CET | From | Cirichád Déofolwítga | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | To Mr Jonathan Spencer, member of the illegitimate Pontesi parliament There is no such thing as Pontesi internal affairs, as Pontesi affairs are all sovereign nation's affairs. The very existence of the Pontesi Hegemony is a threat to all those who do not wish the existence of their country bought to an end by treason and rebellion, as the Crusader Union was. However, as we do not wish another example of how justice and law and order can be toppled by traitorous rebels, we are ready to intervene and slaughter those who would rebel against the House of Mederagaar. The Belknap's place is in a history book. Signed, Caspar Shroudsoul Foreign Minister of the Unholy Davostan Empire |
| Date | 17:05:35, February 24, 2012 CET | From | Nrzi Prta (Democratic Party) | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | Each sovereign nation will always have it's own internal affairs, but judging by the words that I have read from you then I'm afraid I have to said that the concept is perhaps simply too difficult for you to understand. In this case, I will make it simple. Pontesi will decide on it's own whether if it's returning to a monarchy or which Monarchy will it accepts as it's leader. There is no place for Davostan or the Crusaders in this discussion and the longer you continue to interfere, the more the concern that I have on whether the Crusaders and Davostan is deliberately in league or manipulating with some faction in Pontesi. Jonathan Spencer MP |
| Date | 05:05:08, March 16, 2012 CET | From | Medrisite-Associated Revisionist Council | To | Debating the M.A.R.C. Special Ordinance: "Establishment of the Pontesi Monarchy" |
| Message | OOC: This was an accidental vote. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 43 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 33 |
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