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Bill: Recognized Religious Schooling

Details

Submitted by[?]: Social Reform Party

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: December 2150

Description[?]:

The SRP proposes that only real, recognized religions be allowed to start their own religious schools. We believe this will help prevent dangerous cults from creating hostile schooling enviorments, while not impeding on the rights of recognized religions. We also propose the following religions be considered recognized religions.

Bahá'í Faith
Orthodox Bahá'í Faith
Islam (All Sects)
Judaism (All Sects)
Christianity (All Denominations)
Samaritans
Mandaeanists
Rastafarians
Black Hebrews
Hinduism (All Movements)
Ayyavazhi
Buddhism (All Schools)
Jainism
Sikhism
Kabir Panth
Dadu Panth
Zoroastrianism
Gnosticism
Indigenous Religions (All)
Neo-Paganism
Judeo-Paganism
Neo-druidism
Wicca
Carvaka
Confucianism
Deism
Fellowship of Reason
Spiritual Humanism
Mohism
Taoism
Satanism
Arčs Pilgrim Movement
Cao Dai
Falun Dafa (Falun Gong)
Huna
Konkokyo
Law of One
Manichaeism
Unitarian Universalism
Universal Life Church
Tenrikyo
Theosophy
Seicho-No-Ie

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:06:21, November 30, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageAgainst.

Date19:48:42, November 30, 2005 CET
FromCapitalism Now! Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageFor.

Date20:19:07, November 30, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageWhich religions are recognised?

Date20:55:05, November 30, 2005 CET
FromSocial Reform Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageAfter looking at past legislation, we have noticed that there was never any major discussion into which religions were recognized. But, this is what the debate phase is for. We could compile a list of them and attach them to this bill.

To start off:

Christianity (All denominations)
Islam
Judaism
Buddhism
Hinduism

Any others we're leaving out?

Date22:52:05, November 30, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageOOC:

I think that we should come up with percentages for each religion.

I'd like Quakerism to have at least 2.5% with a 100% growth rate, if that's ok. I think that the RolePlay would be very interesting if we were to have a significant (i.e. 20%+) Quaker population in Aloria.

Date00:03:46, December 01, 2005 CET
FromSocial Reform Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageOOC: Perhaps recognized religions would be ones with a certain percentage of followers? Having quakers in Aloria is fine with me, of course. Quakerism is a form of christianity, right? (Can't remember off the top of my head...)

Date00:35:43, December 01, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
Message"I and the ICP agree, but only if there is a definitive list of recognized religions attached with the bill. This proposed law should not be used for discriminating against minority religions while still protecting children from the brainwashing of dangerous cults."
-- Eric Anderson, Alorian Minister of Education and Culture

Date00:58:17, December 01, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageOne man's crazy cult is another man's gospel... Who are we to judge?

Date03:36:34, December 01, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageOOC: SRP, yes, that would be a good idea.

Date03:37:22, December 01, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageOOC: and yes, Quakers are a branch of Christianity. The reason I asked about having a lot of Quakers is that, in real life, there are around 800,000 of them in the whole world.

Date00:14:48, December 02, 2005 CET
FromLibertarian Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageI agree with the AGSP. All religious schools are already strictly regulated, which is bad enough. Do you really think any strictly regulated religious school could be worse than what parents tell their children at home? Regardless of how ignorant or stupid an opinion may seem to the Thought Police in this nation that suppposedly values "freedom", they have every right to those beliefs.

Besides that, this bill could well be seen as in direct violation of Section I of the Alorian Bill of Rights, which reads, in part, "The Alorian legislature shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof".

Date00:29:13, December 02, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageVery well put LCP.

Date16:35:23, December 03, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageDue to the fact that the Alorian Bill of Rights was never fully amended, the Alorian Bill of Rights functions merely as a set of guidelines as to what OUGHT to be legislated, not what CAN be legislated. The Freedom Party is opposed to this legislation, due largely because we believe strongly in freedom of religion, but you nonetheless cannot make the Bill of Rights argument. We are prerfectly happy to propose it so we can pass it.

Date20:38:53, December 03, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageWe see no comprehensive list. We're against.

Date21:51:46, December 03, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageWill voting yes make me more or less religious? In the sake of trying to keep the moderate image, I'd vote the more secular option.

Date22:13:05, December 03, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageThe legislation is fine as it is.

Date22:48:31, December 03, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageWhile the Freedom Party applauds the comprehensive list of recognised religions, we cannot, in good conscience, vote in favour of this legislation.

OOC: Voting "yes" will make you less religious.

Date23:35:52, December 03, 2005 CET
FromIndependent Capitalist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageIt won't pass but I'm voting yes to win votes.

Date00:41:13, December 04, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageHow honourable. Who says politicians are just opportunists..?

Date00:54:05, December 04, 2005 CET
FromFreedom Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageWe must nonetheless commend him/her for his/her honesty.

Date15:47:15, December 04, 2005 CET
From Aloria Green Socialist Party
ToDebating the Recognized Religious Schooling
MessageThat's one way of putting it...

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