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Bill: 3284 Elections
Details
Submitted by[?]: Coalition for National Unity [CNU]
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill requests an early election. It requires more than half of the legislature to vote yes. This bill will pass as soon as the required yes votes are in, or will be defeated if unsufficient votes are reached on the deadline. Elections will be held immediately if the bill passes.
Voting deadline: May 3285
Description[?]:
| We, the Unionist Party, call for early elections as soon as we can reach a consensus. "This has gone beyond a joke now. Two failed cabinet proposals, one cancelled proposal and now a forth proposal in the House. The DRP clearly cannot command a majority and even if their cabinet goes through, it took them years to FORM a Government, how will it take for them to GOVERN? End this nonsense now and vote for the public to reassess their mandate." - Khalid Leylabi, Unionist Leader |
Proposals
Article 1
Arrange early elections as soon as this bill passes.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:33:14, April 06, 2012 CET | From |  Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | The incompetence of the DRP is an embarassment to the subjects of this Kingdom. We rarely like the idea of new elections, but we must wholeheartedly vote "yes" for this. |
| Date | 17:50:52, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "An empty attempt by those who recently lost power to try to regain it. The DRP's failure to pass a cabinet is due not to their incompetence or to any ill will on their part but is instead the result of inactivity on the part of the ANP and the PPP when called upon to join government. Surely the Unionists and Crowns know how inactive parties can hinder plans. But the DRP has been a force of energy and activity in the legislature and that is something healthy for the nation. As such the 2406 Party will vote to allow the DRP to continue its democratically elected mandate until the proper time for elections has come. I yield the floor." Carl d'Orame 2406 Party Chair |
| Date | 18:01:47, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "Three attempts, Mr. d'Orame. 3 and a forth well on it's way. You cannot argue that that is anything but a signal that the DRP does not command the confidence of the House." Khalid Leylabi. Unionist Leader |
| Date | 18:08:37, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "With respect, Mr. Leylabi, my last point stands. All three attempts have failed either due to the inactivity of the ANP or the PPP, not due to lack of support. The 2nd cabinet, which failed due to ANP inactivity, held 312 of 425 yes votes, hardly a sign of no confidence in the DRP. The current proposed cabinet will hold an equal number of vote - and pass with it - once the PPP sees fit to cast its vote. Government requires patience, Mr. Leylabi. It is my understanding that the DRP first offered your party a position in government and it was turned down. Men in glass houses should not throw stones. If you were given the opportunity and refused, you ought to show patience as the DRP attempts to work around your refusal. This entire issue could have been avoided and the previous government could have remained in place if the Crowns relinquished their hold on outdated beliefs, but this is what progress has to look like as we work around obstruction. I yield." Carl d'Orame |
| Date | 18:18:52, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "The Unionist Party was offered several places in the DRP cabinet including the chairmanship of it however it was out staunch belief, as it is today, that the proposed group of parties did not enjoy our full confidence. We had serious reservations about the practicality of the mass-coalition proposed and those reservations stand. We thus rejected an offer of participation in such a government but agreed to support a minority government of the DRP-2406-ANP. That proposal failed to pass the House due to the decision of the ANP to abstain. That is not obstructionalism, that is a failure of the DRP to find a passable coalition. I remind the 2406 that the PPP remains the sole Governmental party and are operating as a minority. Unionist refusal to participate in a vague and watery coalition is not responsible for a national crisis. The DRP have chosen to try and form a coalition but have three times failed. We strongly believe this is NOT due purely to inactivity but because they could not command the confidence of the House. Had they commanded the confidence of the Crowns and the Unionists, perhaps they would have a coalition. However with the PPP's sudden and remarkable U-turn, it seems unlikely that the Crown Party will work with them and with the DRP's sudden attack on my own Party it seems unlikely we'll be supporting them, either. Do not pretend that this is anything other than self-inflicted chaos Carl, you and I know better." Khalid Leylabi |
| Date | 18:31:44, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "Indeed it is self-inflicted chaos, Mr. Leylabi. It is chaos inflicted upon Solentia by a monarchist regime with no support from any but the Crowns and its divisiveness has cast our country into gridlock. Without the support of your party to show the unanimity with which Solentia denies monarchism, we cannot pass significant reform. You continue to preach pragmatism but your version of pragmatism in this instance is obstructionism. My party thanked you for its show of support in backing the proposed DRP-2406-ANP government, and we still recognize your efforts in so doing, but you cannot hold the DRP responsible for the failure of the ANP party which rumors hold is now on the verge of collapse (OOC: last active two and a half days ago) after failing to support two governments which otherwise would have passed. But your show of bipartisanship seems to have ended and now you would seek to empower whom through early elections? The PPP? Hardly. As you admit, the Crowns will refuse to work with them and that will surely lead to more difficult in creating a workable government. The 2406 Party? We have our doubts, and we are not realistically in the running to become the largest party in Solentia. The DRP already has lost your confidence, and you cannot believe that you will go from fifth to first, and so your wishes with this early election seem clear: you wish to empower the Crowns once more, and obstruct the obvious and steady march toward a return to the Federal Republic. This logic is clear, Mr. Leylabi, and it is disappointing. I urge all in the legislature to oppose these elections as a show of support in republicanism, despite the fact that it is messy. My party prefers messy democracy over uniform tyranny any day. I yield." Carl d'Orame |
| Date | 18:45:09, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Coalition for National Unity [CNU] | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "Mr. Margrave, these accusations are utterly beneath him. This Party stands firm in it's principle that if there is no majority government, a coalition ought to be created. When the largest party, however, cannot form a coalition that is workable, it's time to let the curtain fall and get off the stage. He asks who I'd empower through early elections. Who? The Solentian people, Mr. Margrave, that's who. If there is such a swing toward a Fifth Republic, let them prove it. If they believe the democratic forces will prevail, take it to the ballot box. If they believe that all but the Crowns are united in their goal; FORM their coalition. But they won't, Mr. Margrave, because they know they've screwed up. They know they've backed a dead fish of a Party and now they're bottling a chance to go to the polls. They're clinging to a forth and final try and forming a government and even if, and it's a very big if Mr. Margrave, they manage to do it; they know it'll crumble in months. This is their chance, this is their moment, this is the opportunity to walk it instead of talking about it. Will they do it? No. Will they trust the public? No. Will they seek a confident, commanding authority for the House? No. They're running scared and Mr. Margrave, this Party certainly isn't running after them." Khalid Leylabi |
| Date | 18:52:48, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | "Beautiful rhetoric; as beautiful as it is destructive, Mr. Leylabi. Solentia had its elections and it empowered the Democratic-Republican Party with a mandate that will stand until 3286 when it rightfully will be called to account in accordance with the laws of this nation. Indeed, it is the Unionists and the Crowns who are obstructing that mandate and ignoring the will of the Solentian people. Their parties are relegated third and fifth in the legislature and yet they insist upon blocking cabinets, speaking in a manner that overestimates their own importance, and fruitlessly calling for early elections. These are the actions of a defeated regime, one that will do whatever it can to protect its failing position. Trilion the Pretender's days are numbered, Khalid. The people do not want him in Calydon, they want a Supreme President in Halion, as they had for nearly a thousand years. You're fighting the losing fight, you're fighting against freedom. Your rhetoric will do nothing to mask that fact from the public. I yield the floor." Carl d'Orame |
| Date | 19:52:18, April 06, 2012 CET | From | Meritocratic Alliance | To | Debating the 3284 Elections |
| Message | We believe in the interim the only solution is for the King to rule, where necessary, by Procolamation until the matter is settled. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 100 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 188 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 137 |
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