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Bill: The Usage of Lethal Force
Details
Submitted by[?]: House of Astredies
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3318
Description[?]:
| Sometimes lethal force is necessary in the aprehension of criminals in order to protect bystanders and officers of the law. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The weapons used by police forces.
Old value:: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons.
Current: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Proposed: Police officers may only carry non-lethal weapons apart from specially trained firearms units.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:36:37, June 11, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | Why did you vote no Tory? |
| Date | 01:41:04, June 11, 2012 CET | From | Stanton House | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | sorry i vote quick so i now chane my vote |
| Date | 02:02:48, June 11, 2012 CET | From | Williams Family | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | The Williams Family's position might possibly be swayed on this - but right now we're in favor of a police force that uses non-lethal weapons and may call on the military (as a very last resort). |
| Date | 03:48:53, June 11, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | I believe it is a good idea to have a specialized strike force meant for situations that don't neccisarily have the gravity for the military, but it still allows military intervention. |
| Date | 03:54:45, June 11, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | Besides it really isn't a bad idea to have an armed squad constantly ready for civilian situations in which firearms are necessary, like for breaching in hostage situations. |
| Date | 05:52:49, June 11, 2012 CET | From |  Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | In a hostage situation, lethal force isn't needed, and it actually isn't even encouraged. In a hostage situation, you would try to open fire on the target, without causing harm to the hostage. In a case where the hostage is in a locked room, you would breach the room, use flashbang grenades or tear gas, and use non-lethal shotgun rounds to subdue everyone. |
| Date | 19:20:14, June 11, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | Fine maybe my hostage situation doesn't work but do you admit that there are some situations in which innocent lives can be saves by an armed team? |
| Date | 03:34:50, June 12, 2012 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | Saying that "lives can be saved by an armed team" is like saying somone's "virginity can be saved by having sex" |
| Date | 03:36:33, June 12, 2012 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the The Usage of Lethal Force |
| Message | *someone |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 34 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 52 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 13 |
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