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Bill: The Legality of Dueling
Details
Submitted by[?]: House of Astredies
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3325
Description[?]:
| Their are some fundamental rights of man and consentual violence is one of them it is legal for to men to beat each other near death if they are in agreement it should be legal for them to go past that point. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The legality of dueling.
Old value:: This matter is left for the local governments to decide upon.
Current: Dueling is illegal.
Proposed: Dueling is legal and regulated.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 01:00:06, June 26, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Legality of Dueling |
| Message | We already recognize the right to consentual suicide why then do we not recognize the right to consentual murder. Also Karav you did not have delegates from all parishes when you reinstated the euthenasia law yet what you did was right as it represented a fundamental right of the people just as this does today. |
| Date | 02:59:43, June 26, 2012 CET | From |  Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the The Legality of Dueling |
| Message | We're not sure what "euthenasia" is but we do recall legalizing euthanasia. Again, you're failing to see the point: -- You don't have the right to tell other governments what to do. How would you like it if another nation told us what to do? Our citizens never elected them, did they? You have no jurisdiction over what takes place in Iliathar. Also, what point of view are you speaking from? You're not in the central government. The central government isn't obsessed with maintaining power of all the regions. Even if it was, you're not a part of it, so you shouldn't be the one complaining. Make laws where you have power (that is Iker Ado for now), but don't tell other parishes what to do. There's a reason you didn't win seats in Iliathar; the citizens think you're incompetent. We may not be the house with the most seats in the federal council, but we have at least 2 seats in every regional legislature. Do you have seats in every regional legislature? No, you don't. -- - This is quoted from the previous debate, and I will again remind you that you have no right to make laws for Iliathar when you don't even have 1 seat in Iliathar! The citizens of Iliathar have their own, and very competent government. |
| Date | 03:59:36, June 27, 2012 CET | From | House of Astredies | To | Debating the The Legality of Dueling |
| Message | But are you not doing the same thing by having legalized Physician Assisted Suicide in all parishes despite not having seats in all parishes. The fact remains that as human beings we have certain inalienable rights that extend past all borders. No government state or local has the right to legislate morality. |
| Date | 11:06:04, June 27, 2012 CET | From | Beluz Democratic Karavist Party | To | Debating the The Legality of Dueling |
| Message | The Karav dynasty does have seats in all 5 parishes; what are you talking about? |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes |
Total Seats: 34 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 36 | ||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 29 |
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