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Bill: The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment

Details

Submitted by[?]: União Democrática do Tukarali

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: May 3326

Description[?]:

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Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date15:27:44, June 27, 2012 CET
FromGreen Liberal Party Of Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
MessageAgree with Article 1 as it reduces the commercialisation of public land but Articles 2,3,4,5 are simply a reversion to the issues highlighted in the debate for the Environmental Protection Act and will cause a return to the economic instability, inequality between regions and the illegal trade in animals that The Environmental Protection Act sought to alleviate.

Date16:42:53, June 27, 2012 CET
From Foster Care Survivors Party
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
MessageI am curious why the Tukarese Democratic Union wishes to push everything down to the local governments?

Date17:04:02, June 27, 2012 CET
FromUnião Democrática do Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
Message"The Tukarese Democratic Union was founded as a movement to counter the Fascist regime that used to have our country in its grip. As a consequence of the centralising and authoritarian nature of the the Fascist Party (nowadays the so-called Republican and Socialist Front), we have come to the conclusion that it is necessary to spread the powers of the state as far as possible and feasible among the regions instead of concentrating them on the national level."

Cornelius Tang, President of the Council of the Tukarese Democratic Union

Date17:44:14, June 27, 2012 CET
FromGreen Liberal Party Of Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
MessageIt seems rather obtuse and cynical that the TDU is willing to place the wider environment and its wildlife at risk for the purpose of countering the 'fascist regime'. We politicians as a whole must come to realise that no matter how immersive our political tirades and struggles may be, there are wider issues at stake. Whilst we agree that on some issues dissolving power to local governments may be beneficial and will support the TDU's policy in these instances, the GLPoT firmly believes the environment is not one such issue.

Date20:12:01, June 27, 2012 CET
From Foster Care Survivors Party
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
MessageAgreed. Nature is nature no matter where it is :)

Date20:13:45, June 27, 2012 CET
FromUnião Democrática do Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
Message"We believe that devevolved policies still afford enough protection for the environment and that the detrimental effects on the wider environment and wildlife that the Green Liberals claim to be be caused such policies are far from proven. These provisions do not keep regional and local governments from sensible cooperation, but they remove the unhealthy authority vested in the national government. While we respect the stance of the GLPoT on the environment, we disagree that this area should be exempt from devolution.

For us, the overriding political principle is safeguarding our democratic republic against the centralising and authoritarian powers that are still among us, and providing a clear alternative to the voters."

Kim Sung Rhee, TDU parliamentary spokesperson on environmental affairs


Date12:20:45, June 28, 2012 CET
FromGreen Liberal Party Of Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
MessageThere are a number of issues the GLPoT would like to raise with the TDU's spokesperson's statement:

1) Claims that devolution does not have detrimental effects on the environment are unfounded both on an Aristotelian logic basis and in respect to all scientific/social studies carried out on the issue. The simple truth is that if a company is less regulated in one region, enterprise will be more inclined to exploit that region. Where exploitation occurs more heavily in one area the wider economy and environment will suffer as a result of exploitation reaching unsustainable levels.

2) Even if the statement that 'devolved policies still afford ENOUGH protection" were true, the GLPoT believes that such a policy, founded on negative feedback whereby the minimum is done to conserve our environment, is not suitable for such an expansive issue. Moreover the GLPoT believes that everyone, no matter creed, colour OR geographic region, has the same obligation to proactively safe guard our environment and as such the issue needs to be dealt with on a centralised basis.

3) The argument for devolution in this instance is redundant in that although local governments MAY agree to work in "sensible cooperation", a centralised policy ensures that all local governments WILL work within standard regulations towards a common mutually assured goal, greatly increasing

Date12:21:21, June 28, 2012 CET
FromGreen Liberal Party Of Tukarali
ToDebating the The Programme for Local Re-Empowerment
Message...the greater communities ability to do so rather than any single regional anomaly undermining the collective effort.

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