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Bill: Gun Ownership 3336
Details
Submitted by[?]: Constitutional Monarchy Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3336
Description[?]:
| To complement the proposal to limit the use of firearms by police. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Individuals are allowed to own firearms as long as they do not have a history of dangerous mental illness or a violent criminality.
Current: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Proposed: Adult individuals may own guns under strict license conditions.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:50:03, July 18, 2012 CET | From |  Takanashi Clan | To | Debating the Gun Ownership 3336 |
| Message | We understand the concern from our honourable colleagues for the Barbossa clan. However, we believe the fundamental spirit of this law is to provide a means for the common citizens to arm themselves, both against criminals and tyrannical government or estate governors. We believe the mere existence of the militia within the population can not only help warn against the rulers from degenerating into an immoral tyranny, but also provide a huge reserve pool in case of national emergency. |
| Date | 21:00:02, July 18, 2012 CET | From | Constitutional Monarchy Party | To | Debating the Gun Ownership 3336 |
| Message | I take on board the comments of the representative of the Takanashi Clan, but must disagree. The people of this nation exercise their right to vote in order to determine who governs. We should not condone the idea that people take up arms if they disagree with the government. One mans tyrant is another's hero. If 2 percent of the public voted for an extremist party and their party does not end up in government, they may think it is appropriate to shoot the government? In this day and age there is no justification for the entire populace to have guns. Furthermore, the idea of utilising untrained members of the public in a conflict horrifies me. An armed population escilates a public disturbance into a civil war. - Victoria Barbossa |
| Date | 21:18:10, July 18, 2012 CET | From | Takanashi Clan | To | Debating the Gun Ownership 3336 |
| Message | This is true. However, in reality, nothing other than a respect for the law and order of our country prevents a government, or a military, from violating the law and declare themselves undisputed rulers of Beluzia, no matter how many popular support they receive. In such situation, votes are but moral arguments, and can not magically disarm the immoral tyrants. In such case, the people's militia is probably the only thing that can upload the morality of our country, and to rebel against the government. It is indeed wrong to utilise untrained members of the population for a conflict, and that is our reasons for proposing the in-effect mandatory military service a few years ago - to train the population to be responsible users of their weapon and skills. -Takanashi Spiritual Command |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 35 | |||
| no |
Total Seats: 50 | |||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 14 |
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