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Bill: Queranzariah Act 3338
Details
Submitted by[?]: House of Leylabi
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3339
Description[?]:
Proposed by: HRM Thomas Torvellian, 2nd Duke of Antilla, First Secretary of the House of Leylabi |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The way adulthood is determined.
Old value:: Adulthood is determined by age.
Current: Adulthood is determined by age.
Proposed: Adulthood is determined by religion.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: The elected representative of His Royal Majesty David Victor III Kansar, High King of the Tela, King of New Majatra, and King-in-Exile of the Solentians, 2nd Duke of Telapolis and 1st Duke of Nordhelm, Lord of the Five Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm; Hand of the King
Current:
Hans Hátign Vester II Hugo, Konungur Tælmörks, Æðsti Gothi Tela, Yfirmaður Samveldisins og Verjandi Trúarbragðanna (His Majesty Vester II Hugo, King of Telamon, High Chief of the Tela, Head of the Commonwealths and Defender of Faiths) |
Proposed: The elected representative of His Royal Majesty David Victor III Kansar, High King of the Tela, King of New Majatra, and King-in-Exile of the Solentians, 2nd Duke of Telapolis and 1st Duke of Nordhelm, Lord of the Five Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm; Hand of the King & Quás of the Queranzariah
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: No religions are taxed.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change The state's policy concerning religious clothing.
Old value:: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Current: There are no laws regulating the wearing of religious clothing and the wearing of religious symbols.
Proposed: People are required to dress according to religious codes
Article 5
Proposal[?] to change The governments stance on religious schools.
Old value:: Religious schools are allowed, but are strictly regulated. Only recognised religions may set up religious schools.
Current: Religious schools are not allowed.
Proposed: All schools are required to be religious in nature.
Article 6
Proposal[?] to change Remuneration of ministers of religion.
Old value:: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Current: The state does not intervene in the remuneration of ministers of religion.
Proposed: The salaries and pensions of ministers of religion shall be borne by the state and regulated by the law.
Article 7
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers are mandatory in schools.
Article 8
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, and membership is mandatory.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
Date | 21:41:57, July 22, 2012 CET | From | Kansarätten (House of Kansar) | To | Debating the Queranzariah Act 3338 |
Message | OOC: Which religion is the state religion? And what is the Quas of the Queranzariah? Should that title apply to the monarch (and thus come prior to the semi colon) or to the Hand of the Kind (and thus as you write it?) |
Date | 22:34:34, July 22, 2012 CET | From | House of Leylabi | To | Debating the Queranzariah Act 3338 |
Message | OOC: Queranz Church as the official religion and Quás title to apply to Hand of the King, as current king is not Queranzariah. :) |
Date | 22:47:59, July 22, 2012 CET | From | Kansarätten (House of Kansar) | To | Debating the Queranzariah Act 3338 |
Message | "My Lord Chancellor, The House of Kansar must of course, with regret, vote against this proposal. While the royal household firmly believes in the right of all citizens of Telamon to practice their religion whatever it may be, it remains an outstanding fact that the House of Kansar is firmly of the Theognosian beliefs, and that the line of succession limits succession to those raised in the Theognosian tradition, and so mandating Queranzariah in Telamon would not be prudent. I yield the floor." HRM Michael Victor III, Prince of Telamon, King of Lirona Governor of the Kansar Household |
Date | 01:56:13, July 23, 2012 CET | From | House of Leylabi | To | Debating the Queranzariah Act 3338 |
Message | "Naturally, we are disappointed that the House of Kansar chooses not to proclaim Queranzariah as the true faith or to endorse it as the state religion. However we shall respect their current right to do so and shall pray that Akim bless you with enlightenment in due course. In the meantime, the House of Leylabi shall remain faithful to His word and, according to the customs of the Queranzariah among the Tela, shall proclaim the right to use the title of Quás until such a time the State officially recognises it." HRM Thomas Torvellian, 2nd Duke of Antilla, First Secretary of the House of Leylabi |
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Voting
Vote | Seats | |||
yes |
Total Seats: 89 | |||
no | Total Seats: 512 | |||
abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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