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Bill: Morals, a nation in despair.
Details
Submitted by[?]: Hobrazian Peoples Party
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 2152
Description[?]:
| This is about time we focus on the standards of our moral. No other country or population will take us seriously if we continue this slide towards no moral principles. We have to raise our moral standards. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The right to gamble.
Old value:: Gambling is legal across the nation, no regulation whatsoever.
Current: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Proposed: Gambling is illegal unless taking place in a licensed casino.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 22:17:15, December 05, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | We do not see anything morally wrong with these activities. Please explain why they are so harmful to Hobrazian society. |
| Date | 22:20:12, December 05, 2005 CET | From |  Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | I agree with UB, this is a bit drastic. |
| Date | 22:39:10, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | Gambling can lead to debt and great misfortune, split families and in worst case death... (by suicide or murder)! Prostitution has a disgraceful view on women and the few men, that is involved in the industry. It is also not fair that some people are forced into selling there most private intimacy. Furthermore it is possibel that sexual transmitted deceases does and will flourish in the prostitution industry. There is no sense in pornography. It devalues the morals of our people and can't be hidden from our youth that are misleaded in sexual knowledge. |
| Date | 22:50:00, December 05, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | "Prostitution has a disgraceful view on women and the few men, that is involved in the industry. It is also not fair that some people are forced into selling there most private intimacy. Furthermore it is possibel that sexual transmitted deceases does and will flourish in the prostitution industry." - Our official recognisition of prostitution allows us to regulate it. It also guarentees the right to form trade unions to stop forced work as well as enforces minimum wages and other rights in work. "It devalues the morals of our people and can't be hidden from our youth that are misleaded in sexual knowledge." - Explain what makes soemthing immoral. Remember that our young have compulsory sex education to teach them the truth about sex and sexual relationships. |
| Date | 22:50:55, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | Well one way for nations to take us even less seriously is a fascist party who's only internationalist contributions are their pro-nuclear weapon and chemical weapon diplomacy. Nations love that. |
| Date | 22:53:09, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | it is important for us to protect our reputation. This is done with the defence of our borders, the protection of our people and by high moral standards..... |
| Date | 23:13:09, December 05, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | Hobrazia has always been a relatively pacifist country ever since the monarchy was overthrown. Our "moral standards" depend on the point of view: i personally feel they are perfectly fine; you think they are too lax; those from the Dynastic Oligarchy of Deltaria would think we are strict for banning rape... |
| Date | 23:16:42, December 05, 2005 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | i only made my point, you made yours...! isn't it the essence of politics? |
| Date | 04:32:14, December 06, 2005 CET | From | National Imperial Hobrazian Front | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | We could support the first article, but one cannot legislate morality. While we as a Christian organization are concerned with living upright lives, banning prostitution or pornography is not a good idea. Things things will exist regardless of legality, but if they are decriminalized then the services will be safer and with better working conditions. |
| Date | 09:41:44, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Hobrazian Peoples Party | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | I will step down to only propose article 1, hoping we can agree on that! |
| Date | 11:01:20, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Deltarian Nationalist Party | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | Date 22:50:55, December 05, 2005 CET From Liberal-Progressive Union To Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. Message Well one way for nations to take us even less seriously is a fascist party who's only internationalist contributions are their pro-nuclear weapon and chemical weapon diplomacy. Nations love that. Was that aimed at me? |
| Date | 18:33:46, December 06, 2005 CET | From | United Blobs | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | Didn't the L-PU say that in a different thread? He then later said it was aimed at the HPP. |
| Date | 03:08:47, December 07, 2005 CET | From | Liberal-Progressive Union | To | Debating the Morals, a nation in despair. |
| Message | " Message Well one way for nations to take us even less seriously is a fascist party who's only internationalist contributions are their pro-nuclear weapon and chemical weapon diplomacy. Nations love that." I was commenting on the description of this bill regarding "no nation will take us taking us seriously". No it wasn't aimed at you. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 138 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 221 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 41 |
| Random fact: References to prominent real-life persons are not allowed. This includes references to philosophies featuring the name of a real-life person (eg. "Marxism", "Thatcherism", "Keynesianism"). |
| Random quote: "Men's natures are alike, it is their habits that carry them far apart." - Confucius |