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Bill: Modification to Cabinet Proposals
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialist Party of Darnussia
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 2153
Description[?]:
| If only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition, then the cabinet proposals will only represent what the Head of State's party wants, not what the majority want. I say let any party propose a cabinet coalition. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The constitutional right and responsibility to propose a cabinet to the legislature.
Old value:: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Current: Only the Head of State can propose a cabinet coalition.
Proposed: Each party can propose a cabinet coalition.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 15:51:55, December 06, 2005 CET | From | Darnussian Strength Initiative | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | Don't change the make up of government just because political winds have changed a bit. The previous system got this nation by before, it should now. |
| Date | 02:52:07, December 07, 2005 CET | From | Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | Your argument is flawed. Perhaps the previous system worked before, but now I believe that any party should be able to propose a cabinet coalition. After all, the parties will still have to agree to a cabinet coalition. If each party can propose a cabinet coalition and not just one party, then it is more likely that the cabinet will be more representative of what the parties want as a whole. There will be more possible cabinet proposals to choose from. |
| Date | 04:47:00, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | Listen, just because your party doesn't get votes from the people doesn't mean you have to steal the government by other means. |
| Date | 04:55:17, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | Oh, come now. Cabinet coalitions will still have to be approved by a majority vote. No party, not mine or any party, would be capable of 'stealing' the government if this bill passes. This bill merely allows more options for cabinet coaltions to be presented. The reason you don't like this bill is because you want to retain your monopoly on cabinet appointments. Although you are the largest party, you do not have anywhere near a majority of the vote. I feel that the cabinet should represent what the majority (not the pluarality) really wants and this bill will allow for all parties to share their ideas for a fair cabinet that is more representative than a cabinet that can only be proposed by the party that happens to have gotten their candidate elected at the time. Besides, when your party no longer has its Head of State in charge, you'll want to propose your own ideas for a cabinet, won't you? |
| Date | 10:55:23, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | The people vote in the people they trust with creating a cabinet... Which unfortunatly is not us, but there have been better times. |
| Date | 10:55:35, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | and we might get 3 cabinet-proposals at a time... |
| Date | 10:56:05, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Libertarian party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | more then 50% of the population has to vote for the HoS anyway... |
| Date | 13:23:19, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Socialist Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | The Head of State will almost invariably propose a cabinet that is too biased towards his party and paries he favours, neglecting any major parties that disagree with him. So, for example, the second largest party that very nearly won may have no representation in the cabinet even though it ought to have some representation. |
| Date | 18:46:41, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Chinkopodian Economic Democrats | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | I say no......many small, unpopular parties could overthrow some large, popular parties, and that shouldn't happen. If the people vote in the party proposing, they trust it to make the cabinet decisions. |
| Date | 18:53:26, December 08, 2005 CET | From | Social Democratic Party of Darnussia | To | Debating the Modification to Cabinet Proposals |
| Message | I Say yes, only way I will ever get power no with the shittyness of this game |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 57 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 88 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 56 |
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