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Bill: Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed
Details
Submitted by[?]: Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3346
Description[?]:
| As Royal as trying to get us back with problems and wars and destroy to the country we must get rid of him |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Structure of the executive branch.
Old value:: The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic; the Head of Government chairs the cabinet.
Current: The Head of State and Head of Government are two separate officials.
Proposed: The Head of State is also Head of Government.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 16:01:18, August 07, 2012 CET | From | Red Vanguard Dominion | To | Debating the Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed |
| Message | *Yawn.* REALLY You know there are other laws? You know there are other things you can change. You don't only have to change Head of State and names of titles. There are laws, things that make our nation a Militant Communist State. YOU KNOW The best way to take down a Communist government is to end the Communist programs. BUT YOU Didn't even try to overturn slavery. Remember when there was slavery? For over a decade there was slavery. And all Al'Democraty did was propose we call our leader "President," despite this being a desert land called Al'Badara. The Society had to end slavery WE WONDER What the platform for Al'Democraty is, besides "PUT US IN POWER. RENAME THIS PLACE REPUBLIC LIKE I DID OVER THREE DECADES AGO. WE TIRE Of these games, Al'Democraty. If you would, please, change a law. Our visibility is getting a bit low. OOC:You know there are other aspects to this game, right? Besides one bill trying to change open source code, you've tried to change NOTHING other than current administration. You've done NOTHING but propose a million cabinet proposals, all with yourself as leader, finally begging ME to support your dictatorship cabinet. If you ever did anything, anything at all other than treat Al'Badara like you own it, this would be fine. But you've gotten 0% support for every single party you've allied with. You've caused two parties to leave the nation entirely because nothing gets done. You vote No on every bill, you try to change No laws other than ones which put you in power, you speak poor English, and for the three months I've been playing alongside you, I still have NO IDEA what your political platform is. Stop trying to take over Al'Badara when you have absolutely no vision for it besides "REPUBLIC AGAIN, ME IN CHARGE" Jalal has no formal power. He makes speeches and RP's. Something you nearly never do, outside the CFL. I've encouraged every new party to be active, and have not proposed a cabinet with myself as the Head. I honestly don't know why you're trying so hard to overthrow the idea that the entire nation EXCEPT YOU supports. Now please, go tell someone you're their ally and then back out of it three days later when you realize they aren't your puppet. Or, gosh, I don't know, try to change the fact that all children are raised by the State from the second they are born. Or absolutely anything. If you need help translating, feel free to PM me. |
| Date | 16:05:16, August 07, 2012 CET | From | Red Vanguard Dominion | To | Debating the Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed |
| Message | FURTHERMORE The War was started by Zardugal. They sank our unarmed trading ships. They continue to sink unarmed trading ships. They attack our allies. They kill our brave women. What should we do, Al'Democraty, thank them? Request they change their name to Republic of Zardugal? Would you have them change all their Ministers to John and Jane Smith as well? |
| Date | 16:37:25, August 07, 2012 CET | From | Red Vanguard Dominion | To | Debating the Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed |
| Message | ALSO, THE BILL WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE HIM A DICTATOR: 1) The Head of State is hereditary and symbolic = He is symbolic. Has no powers. Is like the Queen of England or the Liberty Bell. An object. A figurehead. A brand. 2) The Head of State is also Head of Government = He is the Head of State, WITH POWERS, and the Head of Government. He is a dictator. |
| Date | 06:07:16, August 08, 2012 CET | From | Al Jabha al-Queranzīa Badariyā | To | Debating the Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed |
| Message | OOC: So what of having powers and i am elected . if you come by people vote you can have the powers you want no dictator come by elections. |
| Date | 14:56:15, August 08, 2012 CET | From | Red Vanguard Dominion | To | Debating the Getting Rid of Jalal Al-Ahmed |
| Message | "no dictator come by elections." (OOC: Uhm, I think Mr. Hitler and a long list of historical figures would disagree) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes | Total Seats: 251 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 129 | |||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 320 |
| Random fact: Real-life quotations may be used in Particracy, but the real-life speaker or author should always be referenced in an OOC (out-of-character) note alongside the quotation. |
| Random quote: "The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one." - Adolf Hitler |