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Bill: nuclear weapons

Details

Submitted by[?]: Seosavists Republican party

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: November 2153

Description[?]:

a step in the right direction.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date18:43:19, December 08, 2005 CET
FromRedneck Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageNo

Date21:00:45, December 08, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageWhat about conventional attack?

Date21:16:51, December 08, 2005 CET
FromSeosavists Republican party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageIf there is a conventional attack then a nuclear attack would provote a return on us and the war would turn into one of extermination not just of conquest!

Date21:30:52, December 08, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageSince we can't afford adequate conventional forces, mass retaliation and a first strike capability are an essential last line of defence. Only the USSR with its massive conventional forces could ever afford the luxury of a no first use policy!

Date03:29:08, December 09, 2005 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageSure.

Date03:58:01, December 09, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageI'm all for this.

Date10:38:03, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageI can't believe the RzP would go for this! I thought they were strong on defence?

Date10:41:47, December 09, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageThey are strong on defence, not war.

Date10:46:54, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageWithout a first strike capability we have no defence!

Date11:00:40, December 09, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageHow many RL nations have a first strike capability, let alone WMDs.

Date13:57:18, December 09, 2005 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageIf they nuke us, they will die. Simple. They will get our cities, sure, but not our nukes. Then, not only will we have the support of the international community, we'll also be able to nuke them back. And this time, we'll go all out. Y'see, those fools who decide to nuke us will prolly just hit Sondavita and go "Wez0rz! We has n00ked their leaderz, they can't go 0nz0rz!" However, we'll let the nukes fly, and kill off half their population. And the international community will be clapping us on the entire way.

We could even nuke our own city to do that. After all, a man who convinced tens of millions of people to follow him off the edge of world (metaphorically) once said, "The great masses of people will more easily fall victims to a big lie than to a small one. Especially if it is repeated over and over." I'm not saying we nuke our cities over and over, but...

Date14:19:17, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageI'd rather than have an honest first strike capability than have to nuke our own cities if we're already losing!

Date14:53:42, December 09, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageI don't think he actually said that.

Date15:38:27, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageHe might not have said he wanted to do that, but he revealed that is what WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO WIN if we were being defeated by a conventional attack or guerilla tactics.

Date15:40:53, December 09, 2005 CET
FromLuthori Green Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageI don't think he was being serious about that.

Date15:50:10, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageWell it's there now. I'd rather not be forced into doing that when we could just maintain first strike capability instead.

Date16:59:36, December 09, 2005 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageYou tend to forget, DUP, that when a war is going on we CAN change the law. If it turns out we're getting our bottoms kicked (which we shouldn't, seeing how we're aiming to create a professional army that would resist most other armies), we could change the legislation and BAM, he's dead.

Date20:16:54, December 09, 2005 CET
FromCovenanters (IA)
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageIf it turns out we're getting our bottoms kicked (which we shouldn't, seeing how we're aiming to create a professional army that would resist most other armies), we could change the legislation and ... EIGHT MONTHS PASS WHILE THE BILL IS BEING VOTED UPON, PRESUMING IT DOESN'T FALL DURING AN ELECTION MEANING WE HAVE TO WAIT EVEN LONGER ... BAM we lose all our sovereignty and can never pass any laws of our own again, but must obey someone else's. NO THANKS!

Date21:06:58, December 09, 2005 CET
FromSocial Calvinist Unionist Party
ToDebating the nuclear weapons
MessageWe must gain the respect of the international community, DUP. Without out, our nation will remain backwards forever. You might want that, however. I mean, the more backwards a nation, the more desperate they are, eh?

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
   

Total Seats: 328

no
  

Total Seats: 234

abstain
    

Total Seats: 188


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