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Bill: The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377
Details
Submitted by[?]: União Democrática do Tukarali
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 3377
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy on public nudity.
Old value:: There are no laws with regards to public nudity, it is allowed.
Current: Public nudity is illegal, but private nudist colonies and beaches are permitted.
Proposed: Public nudity is illegal and prosecuted as a civil offence.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Policy of the government concerning the funding of abortions
Old value:: The government leaves the funding for abortions up to the local governments.
Current: The government provides abortion funding only for low-income earners.
Proposed: The government only funds abortions for medical emergencies.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Women in the military.
Old value:: Women serve alongside men.
Current: Women serve alongside men.
Proposed: Women can only serve in non-battle positions.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Women's working rights.
Old value:: Women are entitled the same working rights as men.
Current: Women are entitled the same working rights as men.
Proposed: Women are not allowed to perform potentially dangerous tasks.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 17:50:33, October 08, 2012 CET | From | Tukarese Democratic Movement Party | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | "We agree with the proposal towards the abortion. With regard to Public Nudity, we think that, althout it should be outlawed, there could be beaches and colonies where it is permitted. Finally, as for both proposals that deals with women rights we think that setting differences between men and women such as the ones that has been set in the bill is an underestimate the women's abilities and capacities. We'll wait to hear from the Tukarese Democratic Union on our opinion and then we'll cast our vote." - Estela Miranda, TDMP President |
| Date | 21:09:02, October 08, 2012 CET | From | Tukarese Social Democracy Party | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | We accept the two first articles however we follow the Tukarese Democratic Movement Party on the women rights matter. Although some differences are acceptable between men and women , the ones presented by this bill makes no sense . All due respect , I wonder how can a party which President is a woman can propose such thing . Furthermore , the Tukarese Social Party will also wait for a word from the Tukarese Democratic Union on this matter to vote . |
| Date | 08:48:34, October 09, 2012 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | "The measures which seem to be so controversial among the other parties do not limit women in their rights, butwill be instituted to protect women from certain dangers that exist both in military battle positions and some civilian jobs. We have no doubts that women woukld be able to fulfill such tasks, but would that really be necessary?" Losolyn Dogsom, Minister of Justice |
| Date | 11:42:47, October 09, 2012 CET | From | Tukarese Democratic Movement Party | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | "We think this is a matter for women to decide and they make such decision joining those kind of jobs or not. By approving such terms, the Government is setting an unecessay difference that does end up underestimating women's abilities before men. The TDMP can't condone with it so we respectfully vote no." - Estela Miranda, TDMP President |
| Date | 12:38:37, October 09, 2012 CET | From | Tukarese Social Democracy Party | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | No one has said that such bill would limit women 's rights but for us this is like doing charity to the ones who doesn 't need it-- it's unnecessary and humiliating. Most nations in Terra have men and women equal in their legislation on this matter and now Tukarali goes backwards. |
| Date | 15:59:57, October 09, 2012 CET | From | União Democrática do Tukarali | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | "That so many other countries have lost their respect for the frailties of the weaker sex and neglect their responsibilities to take these into account, should not induce us to follow that same path towards an uncaring society without proper values. These proposals have been agreed upon, and in fact been asked for, by the TDU Women's League, and who are we to deny the Tukarese women the protection that they are due?" Losolyn Dogsom, Minister of Justice |
| Date | 16:50:55, October 09, 2012 CET | From | Tukarese Democratic Movement Party | To | Debating the The Programme for Public Decency and the Protection of the Unborn, 3377 |
| Message | "Well, we agree that alien laws must not be necessarily applied in Tukarali, after all, different nations have different realities. However, we understand that an 'uncaring society without proper values' is that one who still considers women as the weeker sex, specially on the matters this bill is about. Sometimes 'protection' becomes humiliation. What a shame." - Estela Miranda, TMDP President |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||
| yes | Total Seats: 125 | ||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Real-life religions should not be referenced in Particracy. Terra has its own religions, many of which mirror real-life ones. See: http://particracy.wikia.com/wiki/Illustrated_Catalogue_of_Religion |
| Random quote: "In America today, you can murder land for private profit. You can leave the corpse for all to see, and nobody calls the cops." - Paul Brooks |