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Bill: Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406
Details
Submitted by[?]: Conservative Party of Solentia
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: January 3405
Description[?]:
| OOC: A thought, open to debate: Upon two thirds Senatorial passage in 3406, the nation shall henceforth, in honor of one thousand years since the foundation of the Federal Republic of Solentia, be known as the 'Millennial Republic of Solentia.' OOC: Nation name changed from 'Federal Republic of Solentia' to 'Millennial Republic of Solentia'. |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 04:14:54, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: Other options I have considered are: Bailenist Republic of Solentia (after Father George Bailen and the general Solentian traditionalism commonly attributed to him) or perhaps the 'Millennial Bailenist Republic,' or any variation thereof. Thoughts? |
| Date | 05:46:28, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: This is an interesting idea worth chewing on for the hell of it. I am particularly fond of the history, culture, and tradition that have become synonymous with "Federal Republic". However it is a particularly common name and served its purpose well, though I'm not necessarily suggesting those are grounds to go changing things automatically. I think "Millennial" is a unique take on our nation's name. And while me vouching for it is probably a conflict of interest in some ways, I do like the tribute to George Bailen because his character, whether liked or not, is in many ways responsible for the reason Solentia is unique. But there have been other very influential characters in Solentian history, such as Julia Taylor, Sir Thomas HIll, and Harold Belisarius. |
| Date | 06:49:14, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: I agree with your statements re: Julia Taylor (Holy crap, you said something nice about her?! You've lost your edge!), Sir Thomas Hill, and Harold Belisarius: each of them did play an essential role in the Federal Republic, but I feel that none of them has developed such a cult of personality as Bailen has... His name is, in my mind, synonymous with the Federal Republic as the Solentian Heritage Coalition has maintained it. He was the first Supreme President (of many), and so symbolizes much in Solentia. As the creator of Julia Taylor, and despite how much I loved her, I make no claims to her being on a level with Bailen in terms of importance in Solentian history. I really like the idea of incorporating "Millennial" because the nation's name is the first impression that everyone gets, and VERY few nations, republican or monarchist, can claim a consecutive state that lasted a thousand years in Particracy. We've accomplished a lot by maintaining Solentian tradition, and I'm proud of it; we should show it off. I agree with you regarding the term "Federal Republic," it does indeed carry an historical weight, but it is, as you say, fairly common. I think "branding" Solentia, if you will, would do no harm. |
| Date | 06:54:11, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: Further, concerning Taylor, Hill, and Belisarius (particularly Belisarius, who I always saw as the "Bailen" of the Senate Wardenship), I feel strongly that they should be memorialized somehow on the celebration of the millennial. It is fitting, out of context, that each character comes from each of the four major original Solentian parties active around the time of the founding. Perhaps the names of the Senate building, or the Senate Warden's office, or something like that, could be dedicated in honor of them? |
| Date | 16:07:06, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Gilde Mercantile Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC I support the Millenial name change. It's unique and quite good PR for Solentia too.... |
| Date | 19:01:41, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Federal Independent Party | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: I agree with everything that\'s been said here so far. And while Julia Taylor was pretty awful back in her day, she did make for some "exciting" years in Solentia. In terms of what we actually call it, I really like "Millennial Bailenist Republic of Solentia" or "Millennial Republic of Solentia", the first being my preference. But either name is probably doing more justice to the legacy and tradition of Solentia throughout the years than "Federal Republic". I think that it would be highly appropriate to pay respect to Julia Taylor, Sir Thomas Hill, and Harold Belisarius as well. They all had an incredibly influential role in Solentian politics and it\'s long overdue that they were celebrated. The Senate building should be named after Belisarius I'd say, as his long tenure in the Senate as Senate Warden was unmatched for a great deal of time. Perhaps we could name the Supreme Presidential mansion after Sir Thomas Hill and name a city after Julia Taylor? Maybe the city she came from could be renamed in her honor. Or we could make the national sport mocking her. This should definitely be something we make good on. |
| Date | 21:25:53, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Conservative Party of Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC: Anyone opposed to "Millennial Bailenist Republic of Solentia"? I rather like it. |
| Date | 22:50:50, November 26, 2012 CET | From | Grand Liberal Party | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC I would support the original idea of the Millennial Republic, but not the inclusion of any politicians names. This would equate to a politicisation of the constitution. It sounds militaristic and authoritarian, and excuses those citizens from a different political tradition |
| Date | 10:15:42, November 27, 2012 CET | From | Gilde Mercantile Solentia | To | Debating the Millennial Republic of Solentia Act 3406 |
| Message | OOC Let the name change begin!!! :-) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 191 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 0 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 234 |
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