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Bill: Military Reform
Details
Submitted by[?]: Matternich's Liberal Faction
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: November 3407
Description[?]:
| Taking steps to reform the military of our great nation which Matternich's Faction sees as outdated and in some cases an intrusion of individual liberties. REMOVE the powers of the military to arrest civilians. END mandatory military service and recognise the right of an individual to refuse to have to undertake such a term. END the active discrimination against homosexuals serving within the military and impliment a "don't ask, don't tell policy" as a step towards ending such discrimination. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Military stance on homosexuality.
Old value:: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Current: Homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military actively seeks to remove homosexuals from it.
Proposed: Open homosexuality is not tolerated in the military. The military has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The nation's policy on the separation of the police and the military.
Old value:: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Current: The military acts as a de-facto police force, with powers of arrest.
Proposed: A civilian police force is in place and the military may be called in to help in serious emergencies.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change National service.
Old value:: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military, but can shorten their term/forego it completely by paying a certain amount of money.
Current: All adults upon completion of schooling must serve a term in the military.
Proposed: There shall be no mandatory military or civilian national service.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:57:01, December 08, 2012 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Military Reform |
| Message | The Military has acted as the guardians of peace since the 2nd Narik War, and the organisation has existed for over hundred years. Changing from Military Police to Civilian Police would cause a strain on the organisation of law-enforcement, and it would be costly for our taxpayers. The Coalition does not believe changes should be made at this time. Military Service has been a long running tradition in Narikatonite Empire, and in the Mainland Republics and Kingdoms, and as such we see no reason to change it. Strong military and large reserve is our most important line of defence against external and internal threats. Homosexuality is a sin and unnatural, and has no place in the Commonwealth. The military should search for these savages actiavely in their own ranks and bring them to justice. |
| Date | 15:42:16, December 10, 2012 CET | From | Matternich's Liberal Faction | To | Debating the Military Reform |
| Message | By placing so much power in the hands of the military in regards to civilians life how can we be truly safe? History has shown time and time again that abuses of power arise from the hoarding of power in the hands of the few. Our party is by no means advocating the relaxation of the powers of arrest that this new police force should have - but surely we have moved on from such times as our previous wars? Our party in light of your comments would remove Art.3 from this Bill in exchange for a promise to support Art.2. The military can be called up in times of emergency, why should an overbearing government intrude on individual freedoms in times of peace? As for The Coalition's views on Art.1 our party finds your views abhorrent and finds it illogical that this government's current position is to draft up homosexual men against their will, only to shame them and humiliate them months afterwards with a military tribunal. |
| Date | 18:09:03, December 10, 2012 CET | From | Loyalistische Partei | To | Debating the Military Reform |
| Message | Homosexuality and other acts of Sodomy are already illegal in the Commonwealth, so having the Military not seeking those who break the laws of our nation is illogical. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |
| no |
Total Seats: 301 | |
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
| Random fact: Did you know you can change the official name of your nation? All you need to do is draw up a new name that is in accordance with the Nation Renaming Guide, pass a bill proposing the name change with a two-thirds majority and then post a request to Moderation on the "Renaming Requests" thread. You can change city and region names in this way too. |
| Random quote: "I'm not interested in preserving the status quo; I want to overthrow it." - Niccolo Machiavelli |