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Bill: Welfare Reform Bill

Details

Submitted by[?]: Nouveau Parti Libéral (ZR)

Status[?]: passed

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: September 3416

Description[?]:

The national government will give a minimal welfare to all in need

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date05:32:24, December 22, 2012 CET
FromZardio Federisma Partio
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageAre we so to expand the government like this? Why are we to force people into a government pension scheme? You are changing nearly 100 years of law and policy that has served the nation fine. Are you so trying to make the people dependent on the government for their livlihood there is no more individual freedom?

Date06:49:36, December 22, 2012 CET
FromNouveau Parti Libéral (ZR)
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageFirst of all old doesn't equal good. Second, trying to make people dependent? People do not become willingly dependent on the government they only do it when they have to. If they did though would you rather they be dependent on the government or on the spare change of passing strangers. Thirdy, "government welfare a threat to freedoms" HA! Says the party that has long standed against gay rights, women's rights, worker's rights, among others.

Date01:41:16, December 23, 2012 CET
FromZardio Federisma Partio
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageThere are no gay rights or women rights or such. There are only the right of citizens that are to be enjoyed by all! No one group gets special rights or privledges, and they will not be by this government. Local governments are best to address welfare problems because the people can access local officials easier and different localities have different needs and a one size fits all national policy will not work.

Date01:48:14, December 23, 2012 CET
FromNouveau Parti Libéral (ZR)
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageRights are not relative they never were and they never will be, history has proven it.
Don't twist my words around, when people say "[insert group name]'s rights" they say it because they do not have or usually don't have rights that should be for all people.

Date01:53:50, December 23, 2012 CET
FromZardio Federisma Partio
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageHistory has proven that rights are as reversible as they are "advance able" and my good sir rights are relative as to the particular culture and society. Rights for one are NOT rights for others.
However disregarding the broader historical debate, the main issue is that local governments are best suited and best equipped to handle welfare issues and we should not interfere from the national level.

Date06:08:54, December 23, 2012 CET
FromNouveau Parti Libéral (ZR)
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageYour wrong but we do not wish to debate you any longer

Date02:42:15, December 24, 2012 CET
FromZardio Federisma Partio
ToDebating the Welfare Reform Bill
MessageWe have won then. By failing to point out the flaws of our argument you have conceded us victory through your lack of defense.

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Voting

Vote Seats
yes
  

Total Seats: 290

no
  

Total Seats: 274

abstain
  

Total Seats: 86


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