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Bill: Ratification of the United Countries
Details
Submitted by[?]: Mouvement des Conservateurs
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This bill proposes for the ratification of a treaty. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor[?]. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: October 2156
Description[?]:
| This bill asks for the ratification of the Treaty of the United Countries. If this treaty is ratified, it becomes binding and will define national law. Colleagues, The UC is a neutral network amongst Nations agreed on the following text: THE MEMBER-STATES OF THE UNITED COUNTRIES, to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which brings untold sorrow to mankind, and to reaffirm faith in fundamental human rights, in the dignity and worth of the human person, in the equal rights of men and women and of nations large and small, and to establish conditions under which justice and respect for the obligations arising from treaties and other sources of international law can be maintained, and to promote social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom, AND FOR THESE ENDS to practice tolerance and live together in peace with one another as good neighbours, and to unite our strength to maintain international peace and security, and to ensure, by the acceptance of principles and the institution of methods, that armed force shall not be used, save in the common interest, and to employ international machinery for the promotion of the economic and social advancement of all peoples, RESOLVE TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS TO ACCOMPLISH THESE AIMS. AS SUCH, The United Countries shall be an international organization founded upon the sovereignty of its individual member-states. It shall comprise three main divisions, under which will serve various lesser institutions and organizations. It shall comprise the Secretariat, which acts as a ceremonial leader and a guide for the resolution of issues; a General Assembly, which shall comprise the member-states and will participate in the drafting and debating of resolutions; the Security Council, which shall resolve international disputes and serve to prevent the spread of conflict in Terra. |
Proposals
Article 1
Ratify the United Countries.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 14:46:25, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | We will vote know for a number of reasons, among them: -it's a waste of the tax payers’ money. -it's an international body that only creates resolutions and limits the Rildanorian diplomacy. -it's the kind of international body that will will come into conflict with opposite ideologies (totalitarian ideas/ religious fundamentalism). -we do not believe that Rildanor should promote democracy in other countries because we wouldn't want for a totalitarian regime to promote its values in Rildanor. -we want Rildanor to remain neutral and have decent relations with all countries regardless of the form of government. We want this so we can establish good trade deals. |
| Date | 16:10:43, December 11, 2005 CET | From |  Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | I. There are no articles involved so this treaty only has diplomacy issues in writing, payed with the budget of Foreign Affairs. II. Your second claim is obscure. An international body containing resoluations is an initial impetus towards diplomacy. III. A sovereignty between Nations, like this treaty, based on human rights does not involve/get involved to fundamentalistic regimes but it prevents isolation, isolation which often results into extremist ideologies. IV. This treaty does not include the execution of hierarchical structures. V. Since you have set forth your point of view concerning Rildanor's international relations, you may want to give us some specific suggestions. |
| Date | 21:09:45, December 11, 2005 CET | From | Front Canrillaise | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | We will support this treaty. |
| Date | 17:35:01, December 12, 2005 CET | From | Union for the Rights of Christian Women | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | ‘There are no articles involved so this treaty only has diplomacy issues in writing, payed with the budget of Foreign Affairs.” So basically you are trying to say, that since the whole treaty is useless why should we bother voting against? “An international body containing resoluations is an initial impetus towards diplomacy” An international body where others determine the foreign decisions of Rildanor does not limit its diplomacy? Also why on earth would an international body passing resolutions be impetuous towards diplomacy. International bodies are for weak countries that cannot defend themselves so they need the strength of numbers in order to feel safe. “A sovereignty between Nations, like this treaty, based on human rights does not involve/get involved to fundamentalistic regimes but it prevents isolation, isolation which often results into extremist ideologies.” Now wait, let’s see what you are saying here. We need to join this c..p so we won’t be isolated? How about improving the economy of RIldanor to the level where we have so much power that no country will ignore us, let alone try to isolate us. Also if this treaty attempt to isolate the nonmembers then it will come into conflict with the nonmebers countries, we hope you realize that. “This treaty does not include the execution of hierarchical structures.” We fail to see the point or relevance of the above statement. “Since you have set forth your point of view concerning Rildanor's international relations, you may want to give us some specific suggestions.” The idea is simple. Since most of the countries on Terra will simply jump ahead and ratify anything without thinking first, neutrality will become a rare and if used wisely a profitable position. Most countries will play the role of promoters of peace and other c..p and will eventually come into conflict with the “less democratic countries”. And this is where we come in, Rildanor will play at both sides and gain as many advantages as possible. |
| Date | 18:04:25, December 12, 2005 CET | From | Mouvement des Conservateurs | To | Debating the Ratification of the United Countries |
| Message | Colleagues, "So basically you are trying to say, that since the whole treaty is useless why should we bother voting against?" What kind of answer is that? black or white. "An international body where others determine the foreign decisions of Rildanor does not limit its diplomacy? Also why on earth would an international body passing resolutions be impetuous towards diplomacy." The UN isn't the EU. Again, it is an agreement between countries, no superior body. "International bodies are for weak countries that cannot defend themselves so they need the strength of numbers in order to feel safe" That is your opinion, colleagues, in french we say: "L'Union fait la Force!" which means "power in harmony". Your party is very nationalistic so I'm not gonna oppose to that because I respect everybody's opinion but we are going to proceed with this treaty because my party believes that every country that unites takes advantage out of it based on solidarity, support and trust. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 52 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 22 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 11 |
| Random fact: By default the head of government is the ultimate authority within a national government. In general terms, heads of government are expected to consult with cabinet colleagues (including those from other parties) before making significant decisions but they remain responsible for government action. |
| Random quote: First and second class seats on public transport shall be BANNED! We are all FIRST CLASS people, regardless of whether we are rich or poor and can afford or not afford to pay for a more expensive seat. From now on, all seats on trains, buses, trams, planes and so on shall be the SAME. We will all travel in the SAME way, TOGETHER. ~ Friedrich Pfeiffer General Secretary of the Dorvish Communist Party |