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Bill: Cars Cars Cars - 3422
Details
Submitted by[?]: 반동주의자당 (Bandongjuuijadang)
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: June 3423
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy concerning private cars.
Old value:: Private cars are allowed, but people are encouraged to travel collective and tax incentives are provided for cars using environmentally friendly fuels.
Current: Private cars are allowed, but people are encouraged to travel collective and tax incentives are provided for cars using environmentally friendly fuels.
Proposed: There are no regulations on the ownership of private cars.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:55:54, January 07, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, this Bill would overturn all of the good work that has been achieved in Dranland in recent years in terms of reducing car polluition. Legislation like this would see car pollution sky-rocket. We also believe, Madam Speaker, that the experience of driving cars encourages harmful individualist and selfish attitudes which are inimical to social harmony and the development of socialist consciousness. Public transport is a much more sociable and socially responsibile alternative. Cadfael Maddocks MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 19:39:30, January 07, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, while we certainly reject imposing ideological consciousness upon the people - which is social engineering at its worst - as Mr Maddocks is propagating, we believe that the current system is worth being retained as a way to incentivize clean fuels and ecological responsibility while not infringing private autonomy. We will therefore not support this bill. Fabienne Cipriano MP Member for Valdor Minister for Environment and Tourism |
| Date | 20:27:04, January 07, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: I love how, suddenly, driving a car is a crime against the proletariat. |
| Date | 00:35:33, January 08, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: lol actually I genuinely think these things do have a very subtle effect on how people regard themselves in relation to the rest of society. I suspect people who drive cars are likely to be influenced in a more individualist direction, whereas those who use public transport are likely to be influenced in a more collectivist direction. |
| Date | 07:44:11, January 08, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: True, but the way you put it... |
| Date | 12:42:33, January 08, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: Yeah, the DSP is a tad obsessed with class warfare and socialist ideology :) |
| Date | 13:11:11, January 08, 2013 CET | From | Federación de Vanguardias Jalalistas | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | Madam Speaker, we agree with Cadfael Maddocks that private car ownership is a symbol of the destructive individualist practices of the capitalists, and we support public transportation as a means for building solidarity and proletarian class consciousness. Comandante Joaquín FVJ Vanguard |
| Date | 14:30:41, January 08, 2013 CET | From | 반동주의자당 (Bandongjuuijadang) | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: Well, cars were actually pretty symbolic of the new totalitarian societies of the 30's. Fordism, Volkswagens and all that. |
| Date | 20:44:55, January 08, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: Yeah, you have a point. Hitler said something about wanting every German to have a car. |
| Date | 23:25:02, January 08, 2013 CET | From | 반동주의자당 (Bandongjuuijadang) | To | Debating the Cars Cars Cars - 3422 |
| Message | OOC: In East Germany, cars managed to both be a symbol of egalitarianism (because everyone had a right to one) and a status symbol, because they took years to arrive after you'd earned it. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||||||
| yes | Total Seats: 19 | |||||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 208 | |||||||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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