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Bill: Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Liberal Party of Dranland
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: December 3426
Description[?]:
| This Act will bring sense to our healthcare system.(OOC:Seriously Dranland healthcare system is very similar to US and their health spending is like our spending and it is ineffective and pretty useless.) |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Health care policy.
Old value:: Health care is private, but is paid for by the state for people with low incomes.
Current: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Proposed: There is a public health care system, but private clinics are allowed.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 20:28:48, January 14, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | (OOC: The title alone makes me want to vote against this bill ;-) Seriously, the US has fixed prices and few competition, I don't think Dranland has such a policy). |
| Date | 21:29:19, January 14, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: Argh, Obamacare! (Maddocare sounds like treatment by a deranged doctor.) |
| Date | 22:25:08, January 14, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: Similarity is that Dranland spends near 4.5% of its GDP near a quarter of its budget on healthcare for what drug and healthcare subsidies for people with low income that is just like us spend a waste on subsidies, if you create public system at least we spend it more efficiently also we can charge of some part of hospital bills to people with middle and high income. So we will have some profit than we can cut the budget and taxes a little bit. |
| Date | 00:16:35, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I commend the Greens for bringing forward this excellent Bill, which will make Dranland's health system much more efficient and much fairer. Maria Jimenez MP (Minister of Health & Social Services OOC: LOL at "Maddocare"!! I generally agree with the points made by the Greens player. The private American health care system is incredibly inefficient. Just think of all the money they have to spend on their bureaucratic health insurance schemes as well. Britain's National Health Service has its problems, but I'm proud of it and think it is better than most other systems. |
| Date | 00:19:40, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: It may be private, but with all the price fixing and restrictions on competition across states it isn't really 'free market', it is in fact a corporatist, semi-socialist/semi-capitalist mess. Rand Paul explains it well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHkfITHeJss |
| Date | 07:30:35, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: Yeah, I'd prefer a private system. If you're really desperate maybe the government can hand a bit of money to you, but that aside, it should be private. Public systems don't work as well, I think, and a chaotic free market-socialist mix, as Alain said, is probably even worse, |
| Date | 21:01:40, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: Wow, one vote margin! We could make some good RP out of this. |
| Date | 21:04:39, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: VBSM still not voted yet but for just in case i want huge coverage on it also i will make my own i just need to create characters |
| Date | 21:07:03, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: VBSM still not voted yet but for just in case i want huge coverage on it also i will make my own i just need to create characters |
| Date | 21:15:08, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: Well, he has less than three hours to appear. We may be surprised though. |
| Date | 21:20:02, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC:We will propose it until VBSM votes. |
| Date | 21:29:25, January 15, 2013 CET | From | Conservative National Party | To | Debating the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act |
| Message | OOC: You can't pull it anyway. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 147 | ||||
| no | Total Seats: 148 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 56 |
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