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Bill: Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439)
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3440
Description[?]:
| Dranland's policies on religion are lax and lack direction or coherent design. Without overview of the ideas being spread across the nation there is no way to ensure that pervasive and harmful ideologies and religious agendas are not being spread into the hearts and minds of our people. We propose several limited reforms to help Dranland keep a better eye on what exactly is being spread across our nation and to our people. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Old value:: The government has no policy concerning the visitation of foreign missionaries.
Current: The government determines which missionaries are permitted to visit on a person by person basis.
Proposed: The government requires foreign missionaries to register with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change Government policy towards evangelism and religious advertising.
Old value:: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Current: Religions are permitted to freely promote and advertise themselves.
Proposed: Religions are required to obtain government approval before promoting themselves or advertising in any manner.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Proposed: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 00:01:16, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, this is a highly restrictive and illiberal Bill. We see no justification for it. Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 00:04:03, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,this is exactly the type of liberal,weak,and immoral response from political leaders who have no regard for what falsehoods some religions are spreading to Dranland and her people. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 00:07:09, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, the VBSM is trying to establish discourse control because they know that religion has in all the history of Terra been a source of resistance against totalitarian tendencies. Rev. William Westbury Member for Magadonia |
| Date | 00:13:12, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,I myself am a religious man,belonging to the Apostolic Church of the East,so there is no discourse here. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 00:15:46, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, but why then does Mr Salazar wish to subject his own church to a restrictive regime of having to obtain the approval of political elites to express themselves? Rev. William Westbury Member for Magadonia |
| Date | 00:19:17, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,because not all members of the church look to protect the people of Dranland,instead wishing only to line their pockets. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 00:21:27, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, so the VBSM basically proclaims 'we are in possession of universal truth and reserve the right to censor any individual whose ideas do not comply with those we propagate'. What an arrogant, restrictive and narrow-minded policy! Rev. William Westbury Member for Magadonia |
| Date | 00:29:38, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,I presume you like to line your pockets too? Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 00:29:39, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,I presume you like to line your pockets too? Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 00:32:47, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr Speaker, this assumption is outrageous. If I do not agree with the VBSM's opposition to freedom of speech, does that make me a criminal? In the weird world view of Francisco Salazar, it apparently does... Rev. William Westbury Member for Magadonia |
| Date | 00:41:43, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I agree that some religious organisations and movements are, in various ways, unhealthy. However, we live in a free society, and in a free society we do not overly regulate matters of religion. Some political parties are also rather unhealthy. Perhaps they are the ones we should be regulating a little more? Especially the ones who aggressively march up and down the streets wearing Blue Shirt uniforms, perhaps? Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) |
| Date | 00:48:40, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,censoring peaceful rallies?You would stoop that low. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 01:03:24, February 12, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, rallies are not so peaceful when they are conducted by swaggering men wearing uniforms who make a lot of people feel intimidated. Antonio Benandez MP (Leader of the Opposition) |
| Date | 01:25:56, February 12, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Religious Direction of Dranland Act (3439) |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,they are intimidated because they know the VBSM has widespread support and is a growing powerhouse.If they don't like the uniforms,well,we don't really care.In fact,if I win my seat in the Parliament,I will wear that uniform to the swearing-in ceremony.Freedom of Speech as I see it. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 0 | ||||||
| no |
Total Seats: 399 | ||||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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