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Bill: Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators
Details
Submitted by[?]: Radical Liberal Party of Dranland
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill is a resolution. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: August 3442
Description[?]:
| VBSM created it's security team and court. They need a punishment. Francisco Salazar is the successor of Tom Marshall. Dolores Abala MP from Ulbrach |
Proposals
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 19:51:19, February 14, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker, what is even more appalling, notorious hatemonger Francisco Salazar repeatedly called for lynching Elina Cadiavera, which is clearly a criminal action. He must not be allowed to stand as a candidate in the upcoming elections. Alice Claythorne MP Member for Valdor GNP Deputy Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 00:19:14, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we share the Honourable Member Alice Claythorne's concerns about the way the Blue Shirts have been operating. We also share her concern about how Francisco Salazar has used his Twitter account to encourage his supporters to "lynch" Elina Cadiavera. The Blue Shirts have a lot of questions to answer. Bergitte Mikkelsen (Leader of the Opposition) OOC: If the Blue Shirts really have crossed the line and broken the law, then I suppose we should roleplay a police investigation? |
| Date | 10:59:41, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker Blue Pants sorry i mean shirts or what crap committed crime they conspire to murder but an inquiry is not the place where we can discuss this. We will apply to constitutional court for closure of VBSM and ban from politics to Franclsco Salazar on grounds of sponsoring terrorism, violence and murder. Euginia Seisyll Deputy-Leader of Green Progressives MP from Magadonia OOC: In Turkey constitutional court able to do that at least for terrorism. On that basis I propose this. |
| Date | 15:52:48, February 15, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,terrorism,murder?Were is your evidence?These false accusations will not stand. Francisco Salazar Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 16:35:17, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker Conspring death of a minister counted as conspring murder and terrorism. You tweets are the evidence. Euginia Seisyll Deputy-Leader of Green Progressives MP from Magadonia |
| Date | 17:15:02, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, I call on Francisco Salazar to provide a full explanation for his "#LynchCadiavera" tweet. Bergitte Mikkelsen MP (Leader of the Opposition) OOC: I think we need to be clear about what the Blue Shirts have actually *done*. Salazar has released a highly questionable and inflammatory tweet onto the internet. However, might he argue that he was engaging in rhetoric, and was not literally calling for Cadiavera to be lynched? The Blue Shirts have also held political rallies and marches, wearing Blue Shirt uniforms, shouting divisive slogans etc...but have the Blue Shirt leaders technically broken the law at any point? Even if their behaviour appears to have intimidated people and to have whipped up prejudice, this does not by itself mean they have broken the law. And even if some Blue Shirt members have broken the law, that does not mean the party as a whole has behaved illegally. |
| Date | 18:56:06, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Libreal | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr speaker I think that it’s simply Unacceptable for the Green Progressives/Llysiau Gwyrdd Blaeng to be making up allegations against another political party without any concrete evidence and to say that because of one person’s actions in party results in the party as a whole acting illegally is absolutely ridicules David Bryne The new leader of the libreals |
| Date | 19:08:04, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker We do have evidence that VBSM broke the law,that is presented by VBSM.That one person is the leader of a cult like party so they can be accountable.VBSM should be banned because of establishment of their own justice system.Francisco Salazar banned from politics because of conspiring murder and terrorism. Euginia Seisyll Deputy-Leader of Green Progressives MP from Magadonia |
| Date | 20:19:59, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Libreal | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr speaker Can the green party justify the evidence that she claims to have seen has not been fabricated and to show us the proof of it and then we could start to talk about the Future of the party David Bryne The new leader of the libreals |
| Date | 20:28:23, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker Here is the evidences : http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=5111&p=52674#p52674 Mr.Salazars conspiracy look ay his hashtag LynchCadiavera http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&p=52659#p52659 this is the evidence of VBSM's court like committee http://forum.particracy.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=1930&p=52499#p52499 this is the evidence of VBSM's police like force |
| Date | 23:45:21, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Libreal | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | this could have easily have been fabricated |
| Date | 23:49:35, February 15, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker If you don't believe in those than ask it about to VBSM. Euginia Seisyll Deputy-Leader of Green Progressives MP from Magadonia |
| Date | 19:47:50, February 16, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | OOC: What exactly is this Bill proposing? |
| Date | 20:03:26, February 16, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | OOC: Condemning VBSM and a punishment that is decided by parliament. |
| Date | 23:52:24, February 16, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | OOC: What punishment? |
| Date | 01:10:26, February 17, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,Punishment for what,speaking our minds?Since when if free speech a crime?The VBSM didn't commit any crime and there is no evidence for the contrary.All we did was use our free speech to it's fullest extent.This is ludicrous. Hugo Mnajarrez MP for Luz de la Mar |
| Date | 01:45:53, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker, it is quite ironic that it is a colleague from Luz de la Mar to deny the crimes of the VBSM, since it was in that city where Blue Shirt criminals beat up a Kyo man some twenty years ago, proving the violent racist tendencies that without a doubt still exist on the far-right today. I personally compiled news material on this issue back then and came to the conclusion that the VBSM, judging by how they are acting today, have not changed at all. Jacqueline Townsend MP Member for Valdor |
| Date | 01:59:03, February 17, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,okay,did Mr.Salazar commit that crime?No.It was the old faction of the VBSM,which proves you still have a vendetta and are trying to punish us for something we didn't do. Hugo Mnajarrez MP for Luz de la Mar |
| Date | 02:15:22, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, perhaps the Valdorian Blue Shirt Movement could explain the difference between the Valdorian Blue Shirt Movement and the Valdorian Blue Shirt Movement. The fact of the matter is that this is the same group of people who are saying the same things and doing the same things. Perhaps Mr. Mnajarrez would be prepared to condemn the racist assault upon that unfortunate Kyo man? Such a condemnation would be coming 20 years too late, but still, progress is progress... Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 02:15:40, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | OOC: Oops, should've been Madam Speaker! |
| Date | 02:26:49, February 17, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr.Speaker,the VBSM does not promote racist violence and regrets the incident 20 years ago,it shoul not have gone that far. Hugo Mnajarrez MP for Luz de la Mar |
| Date | 02:27:02, February 17, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | *should |
| Date | 02:29:24, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Madam Speaker, then would the Hon. Gentleman be willing to reveal how far it should go according to their ideals? Would it still be okay to lock up, suppress or mock ethnic minorities instead of massacring them right away? Alice Claythorne MP Member for Valdor GNP Deputy Parliamentary Leader |
| Date | 03:27:10, February 17, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Madam Speaker, We don't promote any of the ideals you have mentioned. Hugo Manjarrez MP Member for Luz de la Mar |
| Date | 22:08:41, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Libreal | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr speaker This is a classic example of the political establishment creating fabricated lies about the VBSM in order to stop the ris eof new new parties at the next elections. Sam Swayne Libreal candidate for foreign affairs |
| Date | 22:18:24, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Mr Speaker Mr Swayne, prove your accusations because i proved that your suggession of fabricated evidence is flawed and wrong.If you evet think that our accusation is right and VBSM does commit crime by establishing his court. Georgia McCormick MP from Elbian Leader of Parliamentary Progressives |
| Date | 22:44:29, February 17, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | Madam Speaker, the Libreal Party seem neither liberal nor realistic in their response to the extremism of the Blue Shirts. Diego Barreto (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 20:06:59, February 18, 2013 CET | From | Libreal | To | Debating the Inquiry on VBSM's Illegal Courts and Investigators |
| Message | mr speaker This is a classic example to curb the growth of parties like the VBSM because the know that they represent a significent threat to the political fads like the socialists who ideals were dumped after the election Sam Swayne Libreal candidate for foreign affairs |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||
| yes | Total Seats: 218 | |||
| no | Total Seats: 144 | |||
| abstain | Total Seats: 37 |
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