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Bill: paramilateries
Details
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: February 3444
Description[?]:
| we the libreals would like to see the introduction of paramilateries |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Government's position on paramilitaries.
Old value:: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Current: Paramilitaries are illegal and the recognized government may intervene freely to stop any possible activity.
Proposed: Paramilitaries are allowed as part of each political party.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 18:32:17, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, this Bill is political madness and potentially a recipe for civil law. Political parties do not need and should not be allowed paramilitary wings. Law and order shoud be upheld by the constitutionally legitimate security forces which are accountable to democratically-elected governments and lawmakers. Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 20:20:31, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I am shocked and appalled that the Prime Minister is leading his party towards supporting making it legal for political parties - including the Blue Shirts - to organise their own private armies. I cannot overstate just how irresponsible and dangerous this measure is. What does Prime Minister Rajoy think he is doing? Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 20:22:48, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I desperately appeal to the parties supporting this proposal to reconsider and change their mind. However, I want to make clear that if this Bill does pass, the Democratic Socialist Party will not be setting up any paramilitary units. Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 20:26:23, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Mr Speaker, Already the VBSM are organising mass rallies, which intimidate local residents and threaten the security of our streets. The police are not always able to respond immediately to gangs of VBSM thugs, as they obviously cannot be everywhere at once. This bill would allow us to effectively defend local communities from the VBSM and other extremist groups. Matthew Hayden MP Backbench Popular Party member for Valdor |
| Date | 20:26:59, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Mr Speaker Marshall lied again, paramilitaries will devastate Dranland and we refuse to set up a paramilitary organization but we will hire private security to protect our party from fascistic or idiotic parties paramilitaries. Georgia McCormick MP from Elbian Leader of Progressive Parliamentary |
| Date | 21:31:05, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, Dranland is currently experiencing a hostage crisis. How can democratic political parties hold the moral high ground in relation to these terrorists when they are voting for themselves the right to form private armies? Some concerns have been expressed about the effectiveness of the police in upholding public order. Perhaps we could deal with this concern in a more sensible way, such as by allocating more funds to the Interior Ministry or granting the government powers to impose curfews in emergency situations? Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 21:52:46, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Mr Speaker, we find it pure madness to allow political clashes to manifest themselves in rioting and street fights between the militant wings of individual parties. In a democracy, decision-making is conducted in Parliament, based on debating, reflecting and eventually voting upon policy proposals. We call on the PP to withdraw its support for this dangerous and irresponsible bill, which would result in the emerge of anarchy and civil war. Ishiro Tanaka MP Member for Magadonia Minister of Defence |
| Date | 22:05:33, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I am relieved that the Minister of Defence agrees with me about the insanity and dangerousness of this Bill. Has he considered withdrawing his support for a Prime Minister who seems determined to lead Dranland into chaos? Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 22:09:23, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker We don't know GNP's idea but if PP continues to supports this bill than we will withdraw our support this government. Gwendolyn Maddocks Foreign Minister Leader of Green Progressives |
| Date | 22:10:58, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Mr Speaker, the Hon. Opposition leader makes a good point here. Can we still back a Prime Minister who is willing to allow the Blue Shirts to assault minorities and homosexuals with their then-legalized mobs of mercenaries and other thugs? We would indeed prefer if we sticked to suppressing any such attempt by retaining the ban on party paramilitaries. Ishiro Tanaka MP Member for Magadonia Minister of Defence |
| Date | 23:07:50, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Popular Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Mr Speaker, I understand that this issue causes great concern to many people across the political spectrum. I do not support this bill and I did not make the decision for my party to support this bill. I apologise for the great concern and outrage certain members of my party's support for this bill has caused members of this parliament and my party will now be immediately withdrawing our support for this bill. Antonio Rajoy MP Prime Minister of Dranland |
| Date | 23:13:28, February 19, 2013 CET | From | Grand National Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, I was right with my belief that the Rt. Hon. Prime Minister would understand how much this proposal would harm social cohesion and public security and thank him for having advised his fellow MPs to reject this dangerous bill. Ishiro Tanaka MP Member for Magadonia Minister of Defence |
| Date | 01:27:44, February 20, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Socialist Party | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker, like others I am very relieved by the Popular Party's change of heart. However, very worrying questions have now been raised about the credibility of this government. Upholding the rule of law and maintaining stability is the most basic duty of any government. Can the people currenty ruling over us be trusted to do this? Diego Barreto MP (Leader of the DSP) |
| Date | 03:19:00, February 20, 2013 CET | From | P.A.R.D | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker,again,the Greens launch a war of propaganda and hate.Mass rallies?Yes.But thugs?If that is what you call supporters of a certain movement,by all means go ahead,but to use your paramilitaries to impede on our right to assemble,that is just plain insane and undemocratic.Nice job revealing your totalitarian policies for all of Dranland to see. Daniel Falcao MP Member for Valdor Jefe de Partido |
| Date | 16:35:18, February 20, 2013 CET | From | Radical Liberal Party of Dranland | To | Debating the paramilateries |
| Message | Madam Speaker This is total distortion of my words, what is said is we will hire bodyguards if there will be a paramilitary group. If some prevents VBSM or any other to protest we will be the first one to stand against it. We can assure you for that but when you commit violence than we are against you too. Georgia McCormick MP from Elbian Leader of Progressive Parliamentary |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 144 | |||||
| no |
Total Seats: 255 | |||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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