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Bill: Freedom of Arms Bill
Details
Submitted by[?]: Internationale Kommunistische Partei
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: April 3449
Description[?]:
| While the VB oppose Violence and coercion in all its forms, the VB also believes in the resistance to state tyranny and as long as the state holds its monopoly of violence over the people then the people must be able to defend themselves. |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change Ownership of guns by private individuals.
Old value:: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Current: Adult individuals may not own firearms unless professionally required.
Proposed: Adult individuals are allowed to own and purchase guns freely.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 21:20:12, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Allianz für Freiheit | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | "The right, and the ability, of the people to defend themselves from criminals must be held sacrosanct. As a proud member of the Right to Bear Arms Alliance, the AF will support this legislation." -Ayu Takai, Minister of Internal Affairs |
| Date | 22:03:51, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Demokratische Zentrumspartei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, we agree that the current legislation is unsatisfactory, but the solution certain is not to legalise guns across the board. We propose that guns should be available for purchase only if the purchaser has a licence. We must not forget that it's not just law-abiding citizens that would be able to purchase guns under this legislation - the mentally unstable and convicted criminals would have full access to these dangerous weapons too. Paul Hiebsch MR (DZP) |
| Date | 22:47:13, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | 'I was a once a convicted criminal, as were many of the older members of the VB, its not a notion that the VB believes the government should be able to decide'. -Fumiko Kaneko- Black Rose MP |
| Date | 22:53:34, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Sozialdemokratische Arbeiterpartei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | We oppose. |
| Date | 23:35:06, March 01, 2013 CET | From | Demokratische Zentrumspartei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, is that to say that violent criminals should have totally unfettered access to deadly weapons? Surely it is the government's prerogative to decide who should and should not be allowed to have these weapons - on a standard set of criteria, of course; anything else would be unfair - because it is the government's responsibility to protect its citizens. With regards to former VB members once being criminals, I'm not sure that we should be too worried about whom the dictatorship deemed an offender. Paul Hiebsch MR (DZP) |
| Date | 00:40:08, March 02, 2013 CET | From | Hosianisch-Demokratisches Verbund | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | der Sr Geehrter Justizminister, Herr Dr. Dieter Neustadt: "Mr Speaker, the monopoly of violence is a key function of any modern government and it is that monopoly that keeps people save. Privatising violence and arms, as the VB plans, will just lead to more crime and less ability of our security forces to support it. The HDV strongly objects to any liberalisation of gun control laws." |
| Date | 00:43:50, March 02, 2013 CET | From | Internationale Kommunistische Partei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | 'The state cannot dictate who can resist the state' 'If for example the Black Guard were to seize some means of production and redistribute it to its rightful owners, then the Police would attempt to retake it seeing as an illegal act of property theft. In their attempt the Police would use force, at which point any good Anarchist would defend themselves, that person is now a violent criminal.' 'What the bourgeois state defines as a Violent Criminal is not something the VB can ever agree with'. Lucía Sánchez Saornil- Independent Anarchist (North East Klein) |
| Date | 03:24:05, March 02, 2013 CET | From | Demokratische Zentrumspartei | To | Debating the Freedom of Arms Bill |
| Message | Mr. Speaker, this bill will have dangerous ramifications. The VB's belief that all people have the right - which does not exist - to resist the law by deadly force is extremely concerning. There is a difference between a good anarchy and a good society. Paul Hiebsch MR (DZP) |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes | Total Seats: 285 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 465 | ||||
| abstain | Total Seats: 0 |
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| Random quote: "Without opposition there is no politics." - Alun Daffys, former Alorian politician |