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Bill: CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS
Details
Submitted by[?]: Republican Party
Status[?]: passed
Votes: This bill asks for an amendement to the Constitution. It will require two-thirds of the legislature to vote in favor. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3480
Description[?]:
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Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change The title of the head of government, who chairs the cabinet.
Old value:: General Secretary
Current: Eerste Minister (First Minister)
Proposed: Prime Minister
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change The formal title of the Head of State.
Old value:: Chairman of the Presidium
Current: Staatspresident (State President)
Proposed: President of Ikradon
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The official title of the legislative assembly.
Old value:: Presidium of the Socialist Republic
Current: Federale Kamer (Federal Chamber)
Proposed: Parliament of Ikradon
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 11:39:15, May 03, 2013 CET | From |  Conservative Party of Ikradon | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | While the proposed titles are incredibly bland they would be a lot more neutral than the current ones. |
| Date | 19:19:58, May 03, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | I feel like a hypocrite for opposing this, but I've never like "prime minister" and "parliament" for some reason. |
| Date | 20:02:52, May 03, 2013 CET | From | Conservative Party of Ikradon | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | They are bland. We're only supporting them based on their neutrality. Minister of Government is simple and for some reason is a name no country uses for the position of head of government, maybe that could be an alternative? There are more unique alternatives to 'Parliament' too, though 'President' is generally the best name for head of state. |
| Date | 21:10:17, May 03, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | Yeah I like President, maybe congress or national assembly would be better. Senate sounds nice. |
| Date | 22:12:14, May 03, 2013 CET | From | Green-Left Communalist Collective | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | The war on the worker has begun. The bourgeoisie will not succeed! |
| Date | 22:31:12, May 03, 2013 CET | From | Green-Left Communalist Collective | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | The CPI has no respect for tradition it seems. Radical constitutional re-branding, very conservative. |
| Date | 08:26:22, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | Actually, APS, I just want to say, I have in the past proposed similar reforms in a re-branding effort. I succeeded eventually in changing the flag. My effort was to distance the country from what many could think looks like to soviet union. (General Secretary, Presidium) And for the fact that some of the names make no sense. General Secretary should be if anything HoG, and the presidium should be renamed just due to the fact that historically presidium has to do with an executive branch, or in the case of the USSR, the up echelons of the Communist Party. So, while I am sure the NDP is coming from a different place, I am not entirely opposed to the effort. |
| Date | 08:27:46, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | I would also move that we change the official title of government to the "People's Democratic Republic of Ikradon" |
| Date | 08:28:33, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Democratic Communist Party (DCP) (LL) | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | This has more to do with that fact that, up until the CPI and NDP showed up, we were on the verge of being a post socialist utopia. |
| Date | 12:09:18, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Conservative Party of Ikradon | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | The current titles do not make sense. 'General-Secretary' would refer to the head of the largest communist party. 'Presidium', I believe, is something we don't have. We just have the 'Chairman of the Presidium', but there is no 'Presidium' to preside over. Or, if there is, I have never heard it be mentioned, nor do I know who's actually a member of the 'Presidium'. |
| Date | 13:22:53, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Green-Left Communalist Collective | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | Fair enough, re-branding the titles of our constitutional branches to sound less soviet, but 'Parliament' is unacceptable. Prime Minister and President are not only bland, but have connotations of aristocracy. |
| Date | 13:23:40, May 04, 2013 CET | From | Green-Left Communalist Collective | To | Debating the CONSTITUNIONAL REFORMS |
| Message | We will open a debate for the more liberal-conservative parties to air their views as well as the more egalitarian, emancipatory-socialist movements to propose ideas. |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | ||||
| yes |
Total Seats: 519 | ||||
| no |
Total Seats: 211 | ||||
| abstain |
Total Seats: 0 |
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