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Bill: Hosian Telamon Act
Details
Submitted by[?]: Socialistiska Forum
Status[?]: defeated
Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.
Voting deadline: March 3482
Description[?]:
| It is time the Telamonese government recognises the truth and installed Hosianism as the recognised national faith. Gustav Enlund |
Proposals
Article 1
Proposal[?] to change State penalties for blasphemy
Old value:: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Current: No state penalties are issued for blasphemy.
Proposed: Public blasphemy is considered a minor offense.
Article 2
Proposal[?] to change
Taxation of religious institutions.
Old value:: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Current: Religions are treated as companies, and all profit is taxed, however, charitable donations are not taxed.
Proposed: Recognized religions are not taxed.
Article 3
Proposal[?] to change The government's policy with respect to prayer in schools.
Old value:: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden, except in religious schools.
Current: Teacher-led prayers in schools are forbidden.
Proposed: Teacher-led prayers in schools are encouraged.
Article 4
Proposal[?] to change Government policy concerning religions.
Old value:: There is no government policy concerning a state religion.
Current: There is no official state religion, but the government only allows recognized religions. 'Cults' are persecuted.
Proposed: There is an official state religion, but membership is completely voluntary.
Debate
These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:
| Date | 13:50:58, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Rojalistiska Enhetspartiet | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | Mr. Chairman, while we recognise the importance of faith in our society, perhaps Articles 1 and 3 are somewhat excessive. Jacob Bergstrom, Chancellor |
| Date | 14:14:58, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Socialistiska Forum | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | Hon. Channcellor, Excessiveness in the defense of morality and tradition is no vice. Gustav Enlund, HVP Chairman |
| Date | 14:22:24, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Rojalistiska Enhetspartiet | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | OOC: I see where that comes from. ;) |
| Date | 14:24:48, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Rojalistiska Enhetspartiet | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | Mr. Chairman, I respectfully beg to differ. The said articles may - with good reason - be perceived as unduly coercive by some. While we too stand for traditional values, the curtailing of freedom of expression and the separation of church and state in practical matters - a symbolic state religion as a point of national unity being another thing altogether - are not things that we approve of. Jacob Bergstrom, Chancellor |
| Date | 14:37:53, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Socialistiska Forum | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | Hon. Chancellor, surely you agree that the corrupt longtime rule of the Vuntätten has warped the morals of the people and they need gentle pushing towards the correct way of morals and correct beliefs. Such values are best instilled in children when they are young so they can treasure and follow them for life. Blasphemy is the only crime the Almighty won't forgive so it is best that we lovingly deter our people from committing it - ever. Gustav Enlund, HVP Chairman OOC: Yes, Mr Conservative indeed t'was ;) |
| Date | 22:52:54, May 07, 2013 CET | From | Rojalistiska Enhetspartiet | To | Debating the Hosian Telamon Act |
| Message | Mr. Chairman, I would contend that gentle pushing does not include criminalising blasphemy. While I am personally a Hosian, I do not believe that other religions ought to be discriminated against by this law. Jacob Bergstrom, Chancellor |
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Voting
| Vote | Seats | |
| yes | Total Seats: 0 | |
| no |
Total Seats: 0 | |
| abstain | Total Seats: 500 |
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