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Bill: Trade Union Ballot Regulation

Details

Submitted by[?]: Liberal Konservative Partiet

Status[?]: defeated

Votes: This is an ordinary bill. It requires more yes votes than no votes. This bill will not pass any sooner than the deadline.

Voting deadline: October 3490

Description[?]:

We propose this change to ensure that Unions are acting for the good of all it's members and not just those who actively vote. This will also encourage members to vote if they are passionate about an issue, giving the Unions a stronger mandate to take action.

Proposals

Debate

These messages have been posted to debate on this bill:

Date19:28:59, May 24, 2013 CET
FromDe venstregrønne
ToDebating the Trade Union Ballot Regulation
MessageThis in effect means that everyone who abstains from voting or simply forgets to do so is counted as a no vote, making it near impossible for a trade union to get the required votes to protect their members interests. Such a rule is blatantly unfair and undemocratic and would never be applied in a national election. I note that at the last Stortinget election turnout was only 57% and there is no reason to believe it would be higher than that in a trade union ballot. Does LKP want it to be the case that a massive majority of voting members can be in favour of a strike yet have their wishes completely denied simply because a significant number of union members forgot to return their ballots in time? If this law passes I fear there will be a large rise in illegal strikes and that is surely not good for our economy.

Cecilie Eriksen,
Minister of Internal Affairs

Date19:48:55, May 24, 2013 CET
FromLiberal Konservative Partiet
ToDebating the Trade Union Ballot Regulation
MessageOn the flip side, the union could organise a vote, and only publicise it to members who they know would back it. Thus forcing a strike on all members when not all are in favour. I strongly believe that if a member supports a motion, they will vote for it.

Can the Minister explain her statement regarding a rise in illegal strikes as a result of this? From where I am standing the current state of affairs is open to abuse, but strikes are not illegal, nor would we propose that they are. Where does the illegality come from?

In my view, if members are not making the effort to vote when one is called, they shouldn't be members at all. Perhaps if people are not bothered by having a strike, there shouldn't be one?

Jørgen Devold,
Leader of the LKP.

Date00:28:45, May 25, 2013 CET
FromIndigoblå Liga
ToDebating the Trade Union Ballot Regulation
MessageI must agree with Ms. Eriksen this time, this bill would make strikes near impossible. She makes a good point when referring to our policy for national elections. The option to abstain is different from a no vote and signals that the voter neither strongly opposes nor supports the measure and wants to leave the decision up to others. Furthermore, I am sure an existing regulation requires trade unions to publicize upcoming votes to all members and if not we would surely support one. The League will vote to uphold the current laws.

Lukas Magnussen (IL)
Industry Spokesperson

Date12:53:26, May 25, 2013 CET
FromLiberal Konservative Partiet
ToDebating the Trade Union Ballot Regulation
MessageI am surprised and dissapointed that our friends in the Indigoblå Liga have opted to side with the Government on this. I strongly believe that Union apathy is no reason to hold a strike. If a member does not take a yes or no vote, it should be considered as a lack of support for the strike action.

The law does not dictate how Unions publicise a vote, therefore the current system is open to abuse by Unions.

Regarding the point related to the similarities between this matter and the national elections; there is a massive difference here. The nation requires an election to provide a government, the nation requires a government to operate normally. A union should hold an election to decide on whether to strike or not, however, whatever the outcome of the vote, the union and the nation will continue to operate.

If we take this example: a union holds an election, 50% of it's members vote in the election. 27% vote for industrial action with 23% voting against. 27% of members have dictated to the remaining 73% that they must stop work and strike. Now that does not make sense to me. Clearly if apathy for a strike is high, it really shouldn't go ahead.

Jørgen Devold
Leader of the LKP.

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